Just skimming through... caught a whiff of some stupid nasty bowel movements around here. Yep, pages and pages of steaming feces. What the hell have you people been eating? Wait, I don't want to know, that was a rhetorical question. Continue now with your crap fest...
Since you are looking at word symbols on the internet, I think any odor must be emerging from your position. Perhaps if you were honest and specific, we could sniff out the real olfactory offender.
So we would test the postulates of the existence of god against the existence of nature. If effects are promised then we see if we can find examples of those effects. One such predicted effect is rest. Come unto me all who toil and are heavy laden and I will give you rest. Rest is an abstract phenomena. In our lives, the mind is naturally abstract. Rest is an effect then, of mind. We have countless testimonies of mindful rest.
Or to put it scientifically.. -- “Every man’s world picture is and always remains a construct of his own mind, and cannot be proved to have any other existence.” - Erwin Schrödinger
Why close the thread because of trolls..? All forums have their trolls.. who want to ruin threads with childish comments.. They are attention seekers.. who have nothing worth while to contribute.. so they make rude.. pointless remarks instead.. The best thing you can do is ignore them.. -- TROLL ”A member of an internet forum who continually harangues and harasses others. Someone with nothing worthwhile to add to a certain conversation, but rather continually thread-jacks or changes the subject..”
The evidence is there. Can't wait when we find it (ah well, I don't need it but it would still be a thrill right)
You don't need it because enough measure of good is evident to you. As far as the thrilling nature of beholding the evidence, the evidence is we care more or less for it. Knowledge is, being shared. Self can only be known by self. All else is called other.