so the lsd test turned up negative. the first test i did straight up with a piece of blotter. the second i allowed to dissolve into some water first since ALD is supposed to hydrolise into LSD in water. but they both turned up negative. so why then, if you can't identify blotters by taste and quality of the experience, am i able to tell when a blotter is not lsd? sorry but this whole the tabs bitter because of the ink thing is a retarded self-justification coming from people that don't want to admit that what they got wasn't acid. if your tabs are bitter, it is probably because it is not lsd -- or because it is from a crystal that is not extremely pure. don't eat bitter blotters and expect that they are lsd. k? all of the real lsd i have had was 100% tasteless, and produced almost no body load. it lasts more than 9 hours, and the comeup should be reaching almost full effects by an hour in.
If the lsd is very strong you might be feeling Near "full " effects by the one hr mark but ir dunno about "full" effects. week tabs ime often take up to 1hr to feel any effecs. All the lsd on paper i have ever had, had a very distinct metalic taste. Again this is just my experience. Once we had wow that tasted kina like butter, but still had a very distinct metal taste. with my 75+ trips i have never had a blotter that i would call bitter.
I have a friend who hasn't taken acid in probably 10-15 years. (He did take some shrooms a couple years ago.) He still is very obsessed, in a way, with the metallic feeling in your throat. Whenever I mention tripping, he always mentions it with a strange tone of voice. I can tell somehow that sensation really stuck with him and is strongly associated with the experiences he had. As others have said, I would say the metallic sensation is more of a feeling than a taste, and it often in the throat rather than the mouth....or at least the back of the mouth.
when i'm talking about body load i'm talking about tightness in your body. especially in the chest. basically any feelings of discomfort or anything besides your body feeling good. yea midwest, i meant nearing full effects after an hour on a strong dose. i've had trips where i was tripping within 5 minutes on a big dose. the comeup is slower, the less you take it seems. i've had stuff that tasted metallic before, and i've also had completely tasteless blotters. the metallic taste gives me the impression that the lsd is from a batch that isn't extremely pure. the tastless blotters were better. so without getting complicated about crystal impurities i'll just say that all the best lsd i have ever had all came on tastless blotters. i wouldn't eat anyting else and expect that it is good lsd.
I have not purchased any fresh acid since nbome chemicals have appeared, if that says anything. And I can easily tell DOx apart. I don't buy that you can just tell, because one time you knew you had nbome, and then tested it and suprise, it was nbome.
WOW. my friend just had a SEIZURE from eating two of these tabs that i have. thank god, he is ok and talking to him i wouldn't have even known he had one. he sounded just fine. i've had several people eat 1, even redosing another half tab after 2 hours. so i didn't think that 2 would be problematic. he is a very experienced tripper as well. so when he asked for two, i saw no problem. but whoa dude. this kid has sold me blotters that were supposed to be ALD, but instead induced a seizure? i don't even know how to react to that. i'll be burning the rest of them.
i dunno man. 2 hits isn't alot. if i was doubling a dose of 5 hits, maybe that would make more sense. i tried 1 hit, then 1 1/2 hits, then 2, that was the next place to go. they are 1/4" tabs. also this friend is exprienced with 25i-nbome. he confirmed that it was 25x-nbome. he isn't mad at me or anything. it's also interesting to note, that when the paramedics arrived, they thought he was drunk because they said he had high blood sugar. perhaps people with blood sugar issues should stay away from nbome.
when you are talking about LSD... 2 hits (let's say 200 ug) isn't gonna much, if any more physically taxing than 1 hit (100 ug). people can take 5 or 8 hits of acid and be "ok" the same can not be said of 25x-nbome, or most RCs. a hit could be 1 mg of 25i 2 mg could be too much i'm saying do not treat this stuff like acid just because it's on blotter paper. "the next place to go" is another hit or a half..WHEN IT'S LSD. when it's 25x-nbome at an unknown dose, you might as well stick with what works (1 hit presumably) 2 hits could be a lot, if one hit is meant to be a solid dose. with 2ce (something i'm more familiar with)...20 mg is considered a normal but strong dose. i would never want to take 40 mg. my preferred dose of 2cb is ~35 mg. 70 is out of the question 4acodmt...i like 30-35 mg. 60 mg would likely be too much, and might actually give me a seizure
i still wouldn't expect a blotter to be dosed so heavily. given the circumstances there was no way i could have known since the people i got it from were outright lieing to me to begin with. there was no warning like. hey. these are strong doses. besides, wasn't it posted in the other forum that some dude took like 10 mg? even if there was 2mg on those two blotters there have been several reports of people dosing that high. although it does seem like a very high dose. it's probably the case that my friend had a bad reaction. it's entirely possible to have a seizure on lsd as well, you know. the point is that it's fucked up that someone sold me something that was supposed to be lsd that infact was not lsd, that actually gave someone a seizure. it's fucked up that people sell off RCs as LSD, because it could easily fuck people up, or even kill them.
sounds like you knew it wasn't LSD, but you still gave it out to your friends, and gave your friend two hits.
thought it would be fine since, like i said, without going into depth. he is VERY experienced with 25i-nbome. he's been tripping on it all summer to say the least, and he hadn't done it in about a month. when i gave it to him i told him that it was probably 25x-nbome and asked him to tell me what he thought it was after he had tripped. and he confirmed that it was infact, 25x-nbome. although it wasn't the purpose of the trip to confirm that the blotters were infact nbome, we had talked earlier about trading hits to cofirm that they were nbome. i suppose i am partly to blame. luckily though, he is my friend, he is not injured, and he isn't angry and is kind of acting like nothing happened.
i wasn't trying to place blame, sorry that it came off that way. your friend obviously made his own decision to ingest it. as long as you made an effort to make that an informed decision then i wouldn't really fault you. i gave my friend 30 mg 4-aco-dmt after we had tripped that day on LSD and drank a lot as well. he had a mild, mini "seizure" and reacted basically like your friend. i felt pretty bad about it though, and it made me re-think my psychedelic usage, especially with RCs.
My buddy who went in with my on the 50 hits said he took 4 the other night (watched The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus) slept for about 6 hours and got up and took two more (and watched Apocalypse Now). He really enjoy it, and still is calling them acid. I did tell him my thoughts on it: that I'm convinced it's 25x-nbome. But, for whatever reason he believes it's acid, so I figure I'll just go along when talking to him now. We talked today and he mentioned that to compare the "acid" with 4-aco-dmt he'd probably have to take them a bunch or times close together to really tell if there was a big difference. So, I guess he's not the best to notice the nuances between various psychedelics. (I do believe he's probably being more realistic than some who take things a few times and are sure they know details about specific differences between drugs...and can isolate those differences from differences in set/setting, etc.) Wow...that is really sad news about your friend Desos. I'm glad he's okay. It is true that there are a lot of things that will help bring people closer to the seizure threshold. You never know what else could have been a factor, and maybe the doses just put him over the edge. Lack of sleep definitely lowers seizure threshold for one. But, that is really scary. I'm really surprised more people aren't having adverse reactions since it seems like this RC blotter sold as acid is really popular on the street. I'd guess it was more frightening for those not having the seizure. Very scary stuff.
That's interesting you feel that way. I think certain people are more in tune or maybe just spend more time assessing nuances when they trip and others kind of like to just trip out and don't really seek to assess nuances. Like 4-aco-dmt and LSD have some blantant differences for me such as onset, duration, and several differences in the experience as well. I find it very reaffirming when I take a psychedelic and find aspect(s) of my experiences correlating with others and I have also found others assessments/comparisons between particular psychedelics helpful when seeking to exploring new psychedelics as well.
