Constitutional conservative VS Obama..

Discussion in 'Politics' started by StpLSD25, Aug 7, 2012.

  1. StpLSD25

    StpLSD25 Senior Member

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sNWbiAMf80&feature=related"]What Ever Happened to the Constitution? | Andrew Napolitano - YouTube



     
  2. rjhangover

    rjhangover Senior Member

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    This is a "LIBERAL" forum. You are not fooling anyone here. I'm sure you can't find fools that will believe your garbage at http://bretbart.com/
     
  3. LetLovinTakeHold

    LetLovinTakeHold Cuz it will if you let it

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  4. Tyrsonswood

    Tyrsonswood Senior Moment Lifetime Supporter

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    It's actually a free speech forum... Everybody can spew hate equally. :rolleyes:
     
  5. StpLSD25

    StpLSD25 Senior Member

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    Agreed, but this isn't a topic of hate. I was hoping to open some eyes as to what Obama is actually doing, and what constitutional or "liberty" conservatives believe.

    It's not hateful. We love our country and we love freedom. I personally hate ignorance. I wonder how many of you actually watched the republican debate before spewing hate at them.
     
  6. Tyrsonswood

    Tyrsonswood Senior Moment Lifetime Supporter

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    Nope.... Don't own a TV.
     
  7. StpLSD25

    StpLSD25 Senior Member

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    You can watch them online.
     
  8. StpLSD25

    StpLSD25 Senior Member

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    double post
     
  9. Tyrsonswood

    Tyrsonswood Senior Moment Lifetime Supporter

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    That link won't load...

    Anyways I'm listening to some Tull right now and then I'm up to the studio. Fix the link and I may watch tomorrow. As I've told you before, I don't vote so you can't sway my vote... There isn't one to sway.
     
  10. StpLSD25

    StpLSD25 Senior Member

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    I prefer speaking with open minded people. My philosophy seems to fit those uninterested in politics, more so than people who are heart-set on Obama.
     
  11. Tyrsonswood

    Tyrsonswood Senior Moment Lifetime Supporter

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    So... In your estimation we would be better off now if McCain/Palin would have won?


    Think... deeply, before you reply.
     
  12. StpLSD25

    StpLSD25 Senior Member

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    No, But I don't think we'd be any worse off either. (Mc Cain isn't a constitutional conservative, he's more like a neo republican.)
     
  13. SapphireNeptune

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    If McCain had been elected, for starters

    -I'd have no health insurance
    -My sister would have no health care
    -The advances made on the federal level for LGBT people would've never
    -The Lilly Ledbetter fair pay act would've never been signed
    -Planned Parenthood probably would've lost their funding, at least for a while, I don't think it'd survive a legal challenge.
    -Who knows if SCHIP would've been renewed, at least at its current levels since it was expanded with a $1 tax on cigarettes funding it
    -I'm sure the feds would go back to only funding abstinence education, and on this subject god knows what would happen with abortion rights
    -We wouldn't even pretend to care about climate change. I mean we still don't really do anything about it but at least the Obama administration pretends to care.
    -Funding would probably be halted for stem cell research
    I don't even want to begin thinking of the Supreme Court. 5-4 decision allowing mandatory strip searches even for the most marginal of crimes? Fuck that, in a 6-3 decision the supreme court rules mandatory beatings for everyone.

    So don't give me that BS they're both basically the same.
     
  14. machinist

    machinist Banned Lifetime Supporter

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    constitutional conservative is an oxymoron seeing as how the folks that wrote the constitution were not conservatives.
     
  15. LetLovinTakeHold

    LetLovinTakeHold Cuz it will if you let it

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    Some of them were and some of them weren't. But it seems today that few people outside of libertarians and non mainstream conservatives actually give a shit about following the constitution.
     
  16. RooRshack

    RooRshack On Sabbatical

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    Obama's a republican?

    Wait, we all knew that from about day 5.
     
  17. SapphireNeptune

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    It's only constitutional when I say it is.
     
  18. StpLSD25

    StpLSD25 Senior Member

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    ^ This should've been your whole argument. The rest was like reading you arguing yourself. I never said Mc Cain was better, nor did I advocate Romney.

    As a matter of fact, this topic was designed to show other Americans how, Obama, has disregarded the constitution. My stance is very just, I'm not telling anyone to vote left or right. I just want the people to believe in freedom again, and understand that ultimately; the people own the government.
     
  19. Tyrsonswood

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    Well... at least we did own the government... Now those other "people" called corporations own the government. Bought and paid for...
     

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