molly dose for different tolerance levels?

Hi everyone, I have some questions in regard to Molly dosage for my friends and I. 3 friends have never tried Molly or any mdma for that matter and I'm wondering what an appropriate dose would be for them

Also, I have never taken Molly exactly but I used to eat a lot of beans. I rolled too often and ended up taking too much, chasing it. Never had any ill effects from the amount I took, but I stopped when I finally had a bad roll & ended up pretty sick. Long story short, I have not rolled in well over 6 years.

What my question is, is if 6 year's ago I had to drop 2-3 beans to start, and would re-dose through the night, (sometimes up to 6 tabs total, occasionally railing one or 2). How much Molly powder will I need for a successful roll? 2x the newbie dose? Or has it been long enough to not matter?

Also, I have been reading up on Molly and I wonder if I have an accurate idea if what a Molly roll is like, so I would like to be corrected if I'm wrong... Is it Like tabs, but you don't have the twitchy, speedy ADD? Are lights and dancing still enjoyable?

 

The molly roll feels a lot cleaner then the regular ecstasy roll. Like you said, you dont get the speedy feeling. It can be a bit more lovey dovey. yes lights and music are still awesome :2thumbsup:
As for the dose, if you havent rolled in 6 years, the 75-150 mg range would be good. Say you take 100 mgs and 2 hours later you want more, parachute another 25-50 mgs. Good luck!

 

I usually take 200-250 mgs Molly and that equates to about 2-3 Ecstasy pills for me. I also use caffiene frequently with Molly because I find it makes it slightly more speedy but not like some E pills.

Molly is basically like smacky pills: blissful, emotionally opening, and mild psychedelia. So lights and dancing are still enjoyable. So you have tried MDMA ...

A lot of Molly is sold by like a 100 mgs and some feel that is suffice, maybe so for some that are really sensitive or therapeutic work but if you are well experienced with rolling, closer to 200 mgs is where Molly shines.

 

.2 or .3 Grs is a pretty standard dose for newbies. They can always take more later on...

 

sweet, thanks for the help, y'all. I'm so excited to roll again! I'm thinking I'm gonna go with 200 mgs since I'm a bigger person. And I have a question for you Guerillabedlam,

What would be your recommend dose on combining caffeine & Molly? Take with, before or during, and through what means? Like 5 hour energy, Shit tons of coffee, or good ole' nodoze?

Thanks for all of your help!

 

I take 250mg with a red bull or a cup of good coffee :sunny: then redose 100mg every few hours when I feel I need it.

 

I take 60-80 mgs of caffiene pills with the 200-250 mgs MDMA. A cup of coffee would work as well, the one time I tried it with an energy drink I was a bit too jittery for my liking.

 

Why caffeine?

Is the very slight alertness/mental stim of caffeine even noticeable on 200+ milligrams? I feel like a proper dose of MDMA would overpower that shit any day... I understand that pills are often cut with caffeine, but I always just thought that was an attempt to make up for sub-par pills with not enough MDMA to begin with.... not because it adds an attractive layer to the experience..

I feel like at 200+ mg, the caffeine isn't really going to be noticeable... maybe during the first hour of the come up, but once you're "there" I don't think you'd notice much difference with or without due to the MDMA overpowering it... I was gonna suggest placebo, but I doubt that would be the case as you certainly seem to know whats up when it comes to psychedelic drugs....

What is the noticed benefit of caffeine? Besides "speediness"... does it add to the euphoric layer of the experience? Some mental stimulation and/or clarity? I just feel that the negative might outweigh the positive aspects of it... the negative being jitters, restlessness, increased heart rate etc.

Just curious... found it somewhat odd that you mentioned caffeine. I've been reading your posts for years, and I know you know which way is up when it comes to intelligent and responsible use of psychedelics... Didn't sound like something I'd expect to hear you say, which is why I'm interested

BTW, I totally agree with your dosage recommendation of 200mg and upwards. So many people do just a tenth of a gram, and while there's certainly nothing wrong with that, I feel like they are missing out on the true MDMA experience.. that is still a pretty threshold dose, in my opinion anyways. However, we all know there's nothing gentle about the molly come down at 300mg doses, so I can see why people would prefer to keep it on the lower end...

 

Caffiene seems to accentuate the MDMA's euphoric effects in a noticeable way that I don't experience without it or by raising the dose, there is a slightly greater sense of clarity and awareness. I definitely can tell from the mental effects that's its not placebo and there is usually also a slight increase in physical effects as well. (Feel the need to consume more water, slightly more teeth grinding,etc)

I find too much Caffiene does start to create negatives like jitters and sort of detracts from the MDMA effects, also I'm sure mixing stims has potential for problems for some. So with that in mind, I'm sure some people could take a bit higher dose of Caffiene than I listed but since caffiene is easily available I given conservative recommendations.