Supreme Court decides on Gay Marriage Issue.

Discussion in 'Canada' started by OSF, Dec 9, 2004.

  1. OSF

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    Story ripped from http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2004/12/09/775303.html

    Well Canada, there you have it. Our courts have said the ‘equalization’ of marriage is not in violation of the charter. Now our elected officials will decide whether legislation is passed in the house.

    While I have to say I like the idea that parliament, and not the courts, get to decide the fate of the issue, I do not like the idea that legislation will be drafted ‘immediately’. Something so obviously controversial and up in the air shouldn’t be rushed into. This rash attempt to get something done now, is a big problem. It simply isn’t known whether the execution of such legislation will have good effects on Canadian society, or inverse effects. Theoretical models will not be considered, as is made evident in the “ ‘clear green light’ for Parliament to immediately enact same-sex marriage legislation” b.s., thus a decision will be made on a whim of emotion and not a solid foundation of knowledge and consideration.

    Here’s hoping there are some sensible liberals left in this God forsaken country.
     
  2. OSF

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    The dean of premiers (Ralph Klein) has called for a national referendum on the issue. Unfortunately, Canada has never claimed to be a direct democracy. So such a free vote is really a pipe dream.

    What are your thoughts? Would you rather have a direct say through a vote on the issue or let it get solved in parliament?

    Personally, I could care less, as the issue is already decided. Gay marriage will be nationally recognized in the New Year.

    But in the spirit of false faith, I like the referendum idea.
     
  3. Burbot

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    I'm not sure about what is the best way to attack it, but if the Parliment does go with it themselves, then it will surely be passes cause im sure the Liberals will pass it and the NDP will surely pass it as well...
     
  4. OSF

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    I’m nearly positive that you are absolutely correct. The only way that any gay marriage legislation will not get passed is if there are more dissenting liberal voters than expected. The Bloc, NDP, and most Liberals will certainly vote yea. Most conservatives and some liberals will vote ney.

    But do you think that a parliamentary vote will sufficiently represent the Canadian position on the issue?
     
  5. Burbot

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    it shouldnt be a matter of what Canadians want, its a matter of giving equal people equal rights...
     
  6. OSF

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    Our Prime Minister has rejected the idea of a national referendum. He has called for a 'free' parliamentary vote. Which means that liberal MPs are going to be able to vote their conscience and not what Martin tells them to vote.

    It is quite sad that the vote should have to be announced as free.
     
  8. radmama

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    I'm one of those phoning my MP, writing my MP in support of same sex marriage.
    It's about time this issue is truly being discussed!
     
  9. OSF

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    Unfortunately I can only agree with you in letter. Yes, it is about time the issue is being discussed.

    Is it really going to be though? We can expect legislation as early as the end of January.

    Passed soon thereafter.

    I don't think it will be discussed as much as it should. I fear that what we think on the matter won't guide the matter at all!
     
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