Should atheism be an organized movement?

Discussion in 'Agnosticism and Atheism' started by Fueled by Coffee, Aug 19, 2012.

  1. thedope

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    This is what separates coke from pepsi, reality is one thing.

    Does it matter?



    It is not that I am worried, but that I want to know! Not understanding can be a coming to understand. If you have seen the horror of possibility and not just its beauty, you will know that life defies fate.



    Then how do explain that my wife is not in the body that I incinerated?

    So you find yourself eating a banana before you thought to yourself, before you had the impulse to eat a banana?


    When I invite her, but she is not in the body I knew as her.


    What about sloppiness? just kidding. Matter converts to energy and back.

    Then why are you certain of this body thing?

    I would say I'm bored with taste.

    I think I said something about thinking and having thoughts.

    Now you want special favors. I never feel cheated by you.
     
  2. Dejavu

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    Nah, reality is infinite. If it were one thing, coke would be pepsi, not to mention everything else. You shouldn't take that ad campaign so seriously! :-D

    It does if we want to know.

    Because it exists now in the form of ashes on your mantlepiece? Death itself is no real mystery, nor is it any kind of adventure. Any who insist otherwise are only consoling themselves about the process of dying.


    You mean she has a different body in your mind? Or you mean you see her in others?

    Because I've yet to see that death can ever make sense.

    Then why are you so certain of this disembodiment thing?

    We only bring ourselves into being through eachother. Do you recall being born? The thought comes. It cannot come too late.

    All life is a matter of preference. How can you be bored with taste knowing there's no accounting for it? :-D

    And I too, of there being no final distinction between them. So no undue woe to the thinker. We can't really help but reap what we sow, or grow for that matter.
     
  3. Brainden

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    It is an organized movement. Project reason, atheist conventions, et cetera. It's paradoxical, but if you believe that secular values exist, religion is illogical, and want people to understand and conform to believing life is meaningful without the existence of a god, you have to spread the word somehow. I doubt religion is eradicating from the minds of human beings anytime soon but, I don't think it's perpetual(at least I hope). We live in a world where atheism is a religious view and world view. It's pretty close to a religion. It's nearly a philosophy. Religion is definitely a philosophy.
     
  4. Atheism is superior as a disorganized movement. If you organize, you treat these religions with more seriousness than they deserve. I am not an atheist, nor do I belong to an organized religion, but I think it's smart to keep life fun.
     
  5. thedope

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    It is a popular expression for our innate desire for rightness. Form and content are not the same thing. Coke is the real thing, not the can it comes in. You can dump the coke out and it spills but it is still coke. And you can mop that coke up with a towel and it is still coke, although dramatically changed in outward appearance.



    I forgot the question. Kind of indicates where I am on the issue but I may revisit it if you would like me to comment.

    Excuse me short bus. Life is an adventure.

    Both. initially it was the sensation of touch. She was a message therapist and a dominatrix. I saw hands in my minds eye. Curiously this event was shared with me with my current companion as we were both in an ecstatic state.
     
  6. Dejavu

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    Yes. And thankfully it is not lessened as one even when it is believed that life is a duty. :-D
     
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    Who believes that?
     
  8. Dejavu

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    No-one at heart, though the religious leave me wondering sometimes. lol

    You're one of them, maybe you can talk to them or something. ;-D
     
  9. thedope

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    It would be the vain more succinctly than the religious who feel duty bound.

    I am one of who?
     
  10. Dejavu

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    The religious you big religiot! :-D

    Why?

     
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    Nyxx HELLO STALKER

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    Hi Nyxx! :-D
     
  13. Nyxx

    Nyxx HELLO STALKER

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    Hi Dejavu! :D
     
  14. thedope

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    That's funny, they usually consider me irreverent. What happened to party animal, have I shown too much thigh for mixed company?



    Because they think they have something important to do.
     
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    Funny picture. When I was growing up I often heard Jews ate babies, coming from a Jewish family I knew I had never been exposed to babies banquets. A few years later it was communist followed by Islam, and now I see Atheist eat babies too. With all this baby eating I am surprised we have such a population problem.
     
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    I suspect it is because in other threads you discuss living by your Christian values and the teaching of the Christ figure. It gives the impression you are religious.
    I personally find Christian values too violent, and see the Christ figure as a fraud that is no more than the merging of several sun gods prior to the time of Christianity. I hate to see the growing death count from Christians trying to force their views on the rest of the planet.
     
  17. Dejavu

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    thedope:
    :-D If they kick you out of their camp for good, you're always welcome to come join with us cold and hungry atheists, and we won't even eat you! Our sacrament is whatever you like except 'sacrifice'.

    Who, the vain? But it is innocent! I love that the vain want us to reflect their importance for them!
     
  18. thedope

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    My friends know me variously as party animal, precious, or dopey. I teach christian values so that christian values may become valuable instead of problematic.
    What values do you find too violent?
     
  19. cncracer

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    You need to go read your Christian bible. I find it to be the most violent religious book on the market. The count of those killed in the bible is over 3,000,000 if you accept it as true. I don't and see it as mythology.
    In reality the total killed in the christian conversion push over the last 2000 years is on the low side 250,000,000 and on the high side 800,000,000 million people. Not a peaceful religion is an understatement.
     
  20. thedope

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    How many people survived that period and are alive today?

    How many people did nuclear technology kill in one day, 80,000 directly in hiroshima. A clip of twenty nine million two hundred thousand a year. As far as activities that could be said to fuck people up, science takes the prize.

    In the same turn, how many people did one church or another feed today and how many diseased did science save from pain or suffering?

    Books aren't violent, they are repositories of symbols. No one was killed in the bible. The bible contains stories of both life and death. Taken as a whole the bible is a cultural artifact and is an account of the lives and life of men, their exploits, and their inner deliberations and aspirations. So a reflection of the causes of men. Why wouldn't it contain violent accounts?

    I think I asked what christain values you find violent?
     

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