https://torrentfreak.com/pirate-bay-founder-arrested-in-cambodia-120901/ Considering that the owners of the Pirate bay were / are neo nazis and got their money from Carl Lundström, a well right wing hate monger. http://www.thevine.com.au/life/tech/pirate-bay-financed-by-neo-nazi/ http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/17/piratebay_neonazi_ok/ And considering that not a dime of all those millions they made from the movies, music and apps never made it back into the pockets of the actual artists they claimed to be helping. Well I say good riddence and they got what they asked for.
neo nazis? who cares, this is a sad day for public trackers. I practically cried when Demonoid was raided, now this. It's not a loss for artists considering nobody was going to spend money on their shit anyways. People download it because it's free, nobody would buy it if it cost them a dime
I sure wasn't defending the big companies that make millions and pay the actual artists pennies. But you look at Pirate bay which claimed that it was all about making things "fair" and it turns out that they're fucking millionaires and they never gave a single penny to any artist. Personally I think that those that actually do the work to create something deserve to be compensated. And if you're not willing to put some money in when the hat is passed around, then you shouldn't be standing there watching the show because that's just damn rude and ignorant. As for the rest well the Pirate Bay got into bed with a neo nazi and as far as I'm concerned that makes them nazis too. Let me ask you, would you go into business with a man that you knew was going to take his share of the profits earned and use them to fund the Klu Klux Klan? Personally I respect myself too much to stoop that low.
The third link posted in OP is a really great read for people on either side of the issue; but possibly even more so for supporters of the Pirate Bay. I don't care what their other ideologies are; all I know is that at the current state of things, most people can't afford much, and a few people can afford most everything. Those that work in propagating traditional publishing and distribution of media are typically a lot closer to that second end of the spectrum than most people that rely on torrents to find enjoyment in their life. 1) it's not stealing, in that nothing is being lost 2) as alluded to by OP, the traditional system is often just as, and sometimes even more, unfair to the creators of pirated products Until money is distributed more fairly, both throughout the publishing systems and throughout the world at large; I don't see how any one of the 99% can be against online "piracy".
What Duck said. Hi Duck! Poor pirate bay....poor megaupload, poor kimdotcom, it continues. Information should be free. PEACE
neonazis? wow, they can make up great shit when they want to put someone to jail... they won't close piratebay anyway, imo
Its kind of a stupid argument anyway, when it comes down to it, you'd have to break encryption to totally stamp it out. Which is what the security of bank accounts etc depends on. And break one level and everyone will just switch to a higher level of encryption. You are never going to be able to stop people sending encrypted stuff to each other
You should care what their ideologies are. YOU REALLY SHOULD! Because bad things happen when good people don't care. I'm sorry but I'll bash a nazi's scumbag head in before I'll accept a dime of his filthy money. And if someone hangs out with nazis, they might not be a nazi... But they're not someone I want to call *friend*. Look I'm not supporting screw the current system propogates. Be it singer, dancer, song writer, painter, etc... The artist should be compensated for their work. So stop and think for a moment... The Pirate Bay and Kim dot com are not modern day are NOT modern day Robbin Hoods robbing from the rich and giving to the poor. They robbed from the rich and kept it. And technically they robbed from the poor too. Who do you think click on those ads on the pirate bay? Who do you think purchased the premium memberships on megaupload? I'll give you a hit, they look a lot like people like you and me. People tend to quote news articles when they suit or fit their current beliefs or values. But when they differ from them, they claim the articles are made up or propoganda. In both cases you need to do the background research before you believe or dispute the validity of any news article. ok in the case of pirate bay, they confirmed it themselves with their own mouths on many many TV shows that their sugar daddy is Carl Lundström. Tobias Andersson, co-founder of The Pirate Bay, has said: "We wouldn't have been able to start the site without the support from Carl Lundström" Lundström is known for funding extremist hate groups and extreme right wing thinking people. If this hitlerian millionaire is in the habit of funding and investing in facists, why on earth would he change and dump money in a bunch of left-wing hippies? Unless of course they're just fake hippies. Do some searches and check out this creeps resume for yourself and then tell me if in good faith if able to support someone like him or his friends. How is downloading movies, music and applications sharing information? Is getting to see the newest Harry Potter sharing information or just watching a movie? Is getting a free Lady Gaga album sharing information or is it just listening to music. Is getting a copy of photoshop 99 sharing information or is it just playing with photos? Wikileaks is sharing information. Where the above is just drugging your brains on mass entertainment. No one is helping democracy or justice by watching a video about spiderman. But for example if someone uploaded a stolen copy of Obama's conversation with the pentegon generals before Osama was killed... The entire course of a nation might be influenced or changed. I'm not saying piracy doesn't have its place. It could be a great tool for good but the scumbag Kim dot com made half a billion bucks and spent it on cars, coccaine and hookers and now he wants to say he's a modern day Martin Luther King. In the situation of Gottfrid Svartholm of the Pirate bay. Cambodia is one of the biggest pedophile friendly nations in the world. I'm not saying he is a pedophile but I would like to know his reasons for choosing to move there.
wait wait, are you really insulting kimdotcom? You are fucking delusional, he created the largest internet locker. Take note, (LOCKER), it was up to the USERS what they did with that website. The community, what you label as the (poor) decided that they would share what they had with the world. The artists don't leak their albums and upload it to megaupload, an average joe bought it, ripped it and decided to share it online. Those guys didn't rob from the rich, all they did was host it. Torrents don't create themselves, people create them. People like you and me, we create the community, all they did was create the playground. You have no idea how torrents work, the pirate bay hosts magnet links. You know what that means? They are nothing but a directory site that connects you to a shitton of users that are sharing their media. You also do know that TPB and MU don't exclusively host "mass entertainment". i just downloaded 6 audio books and a collection of PDF's on economics. One case is enough to break your arguement
There's this damn arrogance amoungst cyber addicts that when anyone disagrees with them that somehow the person holding an opposite opinion is a neanderthal living in a cave and cleaning his ass with leaves. Rest assured that I know what torrents are, magnets, file lockers, etc. It's 2012 for fuck sakes and I know exactly how the "Internet tech" works. So let me set the record straight and make it clear that I own my home (paid in full) and I buy Charmin toilet paper to clean my backside. I have never said that I was against piracy. In fact I've said that piracy can be a force for good in this world. What I've said is I'm not able to support the Pirate bay or Kim dot com. I don't support neonazi loving sumbags that move to nations famous of being a pedophile paradise or super fat fucks running around with hookers trying to pretend their this century's version of Martin Luther King. (That's just plain wrong) Kim dot com isn't even worth calling a piece of shit. Because at least with a piece of shit I can fertilize my garden.He's a 6'6" 300lbs or more lying dirtbag that claims he once hacked citibank and transfered 20million to Greenpeace. (Both Greenpeace and Citibank say otherwise) He lied when he said he hacked NASA and got full access to the pentegon's top secret files. The only *bad ass* thing he did before megaupload do was steal Filipino calling card codes and make some money off of phreaking frauds. Before his arrest, he owned a fleet of expensive high performance cars, yachts, private jets and one of the most expensive houses in New Zealand that cost a reported $25 million house. He traveled the world with Playboy bunnies and drove around in a Lamborghini that had the license plate “GOD”. When he was arrested on January 19th, 2012, authorities seized $5 million worth of luxury cars, including a Rolls-Royce Phantom Drophead Coupe with a price tag of $400,000. Not exactly what I consider the image of a *Martin Luther King* cyber warrior fighting for freedom of information.
Pirate bay is still up http://thepiratebay.se/ Lime wire was took down , if you go to the site to down load the soft ware you will get some thing like " your i.p. address has been recored and if you log on hear again you could face criminal charges . " This is a link to the forum of another good sites list of other torrent sites http://fr33sp33k.h33t.com/index.php?board=96.0 Kick ass torrents http://kat.ph/ the site you go to if you just type pirate bay http://www.piratebay.com/ and a torrent serch site http://torrentz.eu/ desert rat
TPB will continue on I believe.. Hell these guys were working on drones that would run their server if it ever came down to looking for a host that would have the balls to stick it to the RIAA and all the other fucks.... And who cares how much money the owners of TPB have? Did they ever say they were a non-profit organization? VIVA LA PIRATE BAY!
They also said Julian Assange was a rapist. I guess anything is possible but somehow I don't believe it.
So you're in favor of getting rid of one set of douchebags and replacing them with another set of douchebags as long as you benefit from it. (ie: Replacing Hollywood exec douches, record company exec douches, software douches, etc with the owner douches of torrent and file locker sites) Wow that's real 1% thinking you've got going on there. Boy that's right up there with the Washington lobbyists, Wall Street bankers, big oil company execs, etc. People that don't give a fuck about anyone else but themselves and will support any way possible any garbage magot as long as it benefits them. There is no way I'm going to support some fat fuck ego maniac that drives around town in a Lambourgini with a license plate that says "GOD". I'm also not going to support anyone with ties to Neo Nazis and lives in a nation that is a famous paradise for pedophiles and heroin addicts. Tell me junior did your parents teach this sort of thinking or did you learn it all on your own? You know I used to wonder why the world is such a shit hole but today you've taught me a lesson. The world is a shit hole because the average person doesn't give a shit. Thanks for the lesson, I appreciate it. Oh and for your information the drones were nothing more than a joke. YOu didn't actually belive it did you? Julian Assange never drove around England with a Lambourgini and a license plate that claims he was "GOD." Comparing Assange to Kimdotcom is just pathetic. Assange gave us information about corrupt governments and business. Whereas Kimdotcom gave us free Harry Potter and Lady Gaga downloads. Julian Assange voluntarily tried to cooperate with the British police and surrendered himself at a police station. Kimdotcom had a sawed off shotgun and locked himself in a room in his masion hidding like a scared girl. Tell you what. I'll stop believing kimdotcom is a scumbang when Ecuador offers him political asylum.
Well now that you know that I don't give a fuck about anyone else.. We can move on now... and I can go back to sailing the seas and not giving a fuck about you... I'll give you props.. you catch on faster than most folks..
Its beyond me how any one can make money from a file sharing site when its all for free . There are some adds but I dont think that would pay for more than the cost to run the site . I think some one has the wrong ideas on file sharing . desert rat
Yea well they do make money and shit loads of it! Here's the pirate bay gang's individual values.FREDRIK NEIJ Net Worth : $10+ Million, Gottfrid Svartholm Net Worth : $12+ Million Peter Sunde Net worth : 12+ Million Carl Lundström Net worth: some sources claim more than 100 million. You should note that Peter Sunde said this about Wikileaks. " Even though I have a love-hate type of relationship to WikiLeaks, and some of my other co-workers at Flattr as well, we all stand up for the right of WikiLeaks to use our system. It’s a separate thing from any personal views." Sunde was always the "spokesman" for the Pirate bay and although he does a little bit of politically correct media spin, looking back at his old tweets the man is anything but a fan of Julian Assange. Considering that Wikileaks has been starving for money I get the impression that any assistance given to Assange has been out of necessity to protect the *brand image* that the pirate bay owners have created for themselves. Because if anything they certainly have more than enough money and resources that anyone of them could have hand delivered the cash to Assange. Everyone should look at these clip before calling the Pirate Bay heros. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eg1S9n81ras&feature=player_embedded https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uENqtT5AP_w&feature=related The neo-Nazi and far-right background of sometime financier Carl Lundström has been known for some time. Far from pleading ignorance, the band of alleged pirates said then that they “just needed the money.” Lundström and a Pirate Bay operator worked side-by-side at Rix Telecom. Lundström’s cash injection was used to pay for servers and other tech bits. It is suggested he is a 40% owner of the operation. Carl Lundström inherited a fortune from crispbread, and has put some of it into extremist right-wing parties, with a strong anti-immigrant line. In 1985 he was involved with a group of skinheads who beat up some Latin Americans in the old town in Stockholm; in the early Nineties he was thrown out of New Democracy, a populist and xenophobic party, for being too right wing; this month it turns out that one of the men arrested for his part in an armed burglary and assault in a small town on the West Coast, part of a feud within a neo-nazist organisation, was the managing director of one of Lundström’s companies. Over the years, Lundström has switched his support from Keep Sweden Swedish to the far-right headbangers party New Democracy – but was thrown out for being too right wing. He’s currently bankrolling 100 candidates for the Swedish equivalent of the BNP. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/02/26/pirate_bay_neo_nazi/ http://expo.se/2005/carl-lundstrom,-mangmiljonar-och-hogerextremist_1289.html http://www.metro.se/nyheter/gripne-nazisten-var-hans-narmaste-man/Objhbv!07_2817-57/ Yea.. the Pirate party of Europe. Don't ever forget that Hitler came to power and created an extreme right wing state on the back of a socialist (left wing) political party. So I hope everyone that supports them gets exactly what they deserve in the end. Because you're helping nazis get rich.
So you are angry because they made money? Envy much, i could give two fucks whether they support breivik, hitler, nazis, white supremacists, the fucking black panther. We are entitled to our own personal views. Play your part and boycott the services, quit bitching about it like it's a moral dilemma to the whole world