The death of God

What is stored energy? Do electrons in ~non moving~ matter stop spinning? Think sub atomic level... ALL ENERGY is movement, all matter is energy. E=mc^2.

 

You are right. I've overlooked it.

 

Nobody really understands quantum physics, but it seems to work. Modern quantum physics depends on quarks, but in a sense they are an article of faith. Nobody has actually seen one, nor do scientists necessarily ever expect to, although they provide an intelligible explanatory concept for observed reality. Physicists Paul Davies, Freeman Dyson, and John Polkinghorne argue that the idea of a superpowerful consciouness that transcends matter and massive spatial distances is a plausible explanation for a variety of facts about the cosmos. "Transcends massive spatial differences"? Isn't that the same as non-locality, which quantum physics says is a reality?

 

Quantum physics is mostly THEORY, and some quantum theories are almost as absurd as the concept of God. 11 dimension string theory is utter bullshit. I've watched "science" programs while slapping my forehead because some "scientists" don't even understand what TIME is. My personal theory is that a "particle" is the smallest possible spatial displacement. They hit electrons orbiting within atoms at light speed and break or deflect other particles and call one an up quark and another a down quark... they're all the same thing, just depends on the phase angle of the electron they hit as to how they get deflected.

Anyway all that doesn't matter, quantum theory is sketchy, at best they've reverse engineered SOME outcomes. As you said, nobody really understands. So because it's not understood I should accept super consciousness as plausible? Ummm, no, because I have a logical mind of my own. I will reject absurd theories that have zero logic or bad proof, zero fact or false facts.

 

Much of today's science was yesterday's absurdities. They laughed at electromagnetic fields, but where would we be without them? Quantum physics may be "mostly theory" but what a theory! All solid state electronics is built on it, as are the laser, the transistor, the electron microscope, semiconductors, MRI technology, flash memory chips in USB drives, etc. "Spooky" phenomena like non-locality are not understood but they are empirical realities. Scientists operate on the basis of theories that provide the best fit with existing observations. Remember Reagan's dismissal of evolution as "only a theory." I wonder if the resistance to QM reflects a nervousness about indeterminacy, which is understandably threatening to determinists. I question string theory myself, especially since I can't forsee how it will ever lead to refutable hypotheses. But I would hesitate to dismiss as "absurd" theories that most scientists think make the best sense of empirical realities. You are certainly right to reject theories that have "zero logic or bad proof, zero fact or false facts" but seem a tad close minded about what those are. Besides, metaphysics, albeit not to everyone's taste, is a way of making sense of the plethora of absurdities that seem to have solid empirical grounding. Your numerous posts outlining various pet "theories", as yet untested, are good examples.

 

I understand but... there's a little thing called the "1st Commandment"(the Prime Directive)- which means-in essence- that I am to choose God over Love([ala the NT verse: "God is Love"], or any other thing/force).
Only once in the OT are we told why God created anything: "For my honor/respect"(Is.43:7- KVD).
So yes, it/this is a beautiful, lovely and interesting cosmos("love is lovely")- more beautiful, lovely, and interesting than we can imagine, BUT the Captain(who created out of nothing love and space/time) told me that it's most important that I go down with the ship(i.e. even with every fiber in my being telling me to bow down to Love- i.e. jump-ship/faith in God for faith in Love or Etc.), so I will because faith in God means that God is over love(or gold).
ps. By calling it "Super-Nature"- to me- dishonors God, because it associates nature with God. This is not the same as calling God "loving, merciful, compassionate, long-suffering...", etc.(Exodus). God is "naturing"- if you want to continue the string of "attributes"- but not nature(or love).

 

Of course God comes first. God is always ultimate. But we must be careful in not interpreting this in such a way that the First Commandment is competitive with the others. When asked "which is the great commandment in the law?", Jesus answered,
"You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the great and first commandment." But he added "the second is like it, You shall love your neighbor as yourself". And he said " on these two commandments depend all the law and the prophets.” Yohanan ben Zakkai, a respected rabbi and founder of Yavneh, taught that “loving our neighbor” means caring for our neighbor’s honor and property as much as our own. And Rabbi Hillek said that "the whole Law" could be summarized as: "What is hateful to thee, do not unto thy fellow man": He said the rest is mere commentary" (Shabbat 31a). A great tanna of first century Judaism, Akiva ben Joseph, said that the maxim to " love thy neighbor as thyself" was the "greatest principle of Judaism". While I interpret "God is Love" as metaphor, I can't see a situation in which Love (Agape) could ever conflict with God. I don't think God "created" Love. Love is a central part of God's character, as revealed to us by God. And to say the God is Super-Nature (Above Nature) doesn't make God a part of Nature but explicitly puts God above Nature, as the Torah says.

 

God always was and always will be, but our egos are transient, so don't bother gettin' too attached!

 

As if religious God doesn't have an ego. I haven't read one religious definition of a God that WASN'T a raging DICKHOLE!

Yeah, don't bother getting attached to your ego. God wants them all to himself. He's going to manifest them all into a giant dick and beat you with it for eternity.

Don't think bad thoughts around God.
Don't you think bad thoughts around God.
He's gonna smack you with his knob.

Can't wait for eternal heaven with God.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkJcFGvNgcY"]Favorite Scenes from "It's a Good Life", in "The Twilight Zone" series - YouTube

 

Our concept of God in the Western Psyche is an externalization of the "Father"...The Father can be either harsh or forgiving...It is a patriarchal construct used for centuries in order to maintain social control...How do we form a society where people are peaceful and loving towards one another without recourse to a mythical God? It's not good enough just to say "There's no God...Let's all shit on each other."

 

Oh, yeah, well that should be the atheist motto right there huh, "There's no God...Let's all shit on each other."

I can't possibly have morals without god... poo poo on your face!

^ insert sarc marks again please.

 

I was raised a Christian, converted to Islam in my late teens. Took comparative religion classes to see what else the world has to offer during my late twenties. But every time I see children exploited, impoverished, killed, etc., it further reenforces my belief that there is no such thing as a god as taught to me in by religion.