I have no problem with pornography. I enjoy it. A great deal. If pornography was removed from the internet, there would only be one website left and that website would advocate for the return of pornography.
I've noticed the shallowing of sex too. Sex should be a deep, special connection with someone. Making Love. That's what I want. I think it is sad and disgusting that some children have access to porn and this is going to shape their view of sex. In porn, sex is depicted as raunchy and disrespectful; it's trashy. Sex shouldn't be like this. It should be intimate and sweet.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who seems to have noticed this. Truly, pornography generalizes sex into this messy, exploited, naughty image. But what most youngins may not realize is that sex is personal, and it can mean very different things to people. and not necessarily in the fetish way that some would assume either x) I guess in my generation especially, people are very up-front about it. For example, I'd meet someone who seemed cool online and they'd immediately start trying to "sext" with me. I mean, we all have our preferences... but fuck, it's like people don't even have to try anymore. How is that romantic?
Yes, exactly. Romance. Where's the romance? People seem to lack romance when it comes to sex..and perhaps it is because of porn.
You see other peoples sex life (porn excluded)? Or is it the teenage approach to sex you mean? I have the feeling that was not so different before the easy access to porn.
Not all of course, but most women follow the same formula. Teens, curious and more about attention, in high school each relationship might only last a couple months. Then out of high school 18 until unmarried, all about oh cheatings so wrong, anything other than good ole boring missionary in a loving committed relationship is disgusting. Please dont tell my boyfriend I actually do get horny and horny for guys hotter than him or he'll never propose. Then mid 20s its all about babies and getting clucky Then get to the 7 year itch, bored of being married, the kids arent as cute anymore, then they are back on the prowl again....Cougartown So as for those "youngins" you know full well the girls arent going to listen, to them you are already old, out of high school you have to get married and turn into their mom, you are not as cool or as sweet as them anymore. As for some of those male "youngins" that have hit 15, already look like footballers too early, already have a whole bunch of cougars coming at them. Already getting the sneaky hey big boy look from every second bored housewife. They will know more about women than you do. And the real shitty part is they will know better than you what type of cougar you will turn into. In that way, they know you better than you know yourself Porn generalizes sex into messy, exploitive, naughty? So sex is supposed to be boring, not naughty? Not a good idea to say that in front of any potential fiancee. Its always exploitive, even at romantic and personal its still about getting what you want. And as for messy, all sex is disgusting, we wouldnt do it if we didnt get horny......or we were trying to get a guy to marry us
We can't say pornography is always like ____ Because there are totally different genres of it and not all of it is raunchy, ultra violent and abusive. There are genres of pornography that depict this but it's not the only kind of porn out there. Has porn affected our society? The answer is yes. I think it's also fair to say that younger generations (age 20 and younger) have easier access to better image quality porn than say previous generations. What kind of genre of porn are they looking at can surely impact their personal view of what sex, love, and intimacy are about, but I don't think there's enough evidence to prove all pornography has impacted society in a positive or negative light. I know for a lot of young people, their obsession with porn is short lived and then they phase out of it once they enter a real loving relationship. But I don't think it's right to say or imply a loving relationship can't have it's raunchy, hardcore sex moments. They aren't mutually exclusive.
Why is it that when I make a point, someone has to assume that that's my only opinion in every possible light, and that I must agree with the exact opposite point. Obviously it's messy if we're speaking literally! And obviously sex isn't supposed to be boring! and exploiting, yes! But more just personally exposing. I'm just saying it exploits the intimacy on a personal level. Like, it's not this really special thing that's just between you and someone else.. It's this pleasure thing and every chick is just another pussy to fuck in the same ways. Meh, I don't know x)
Try not to take personal offense to it. Vanilla does this to many people's discussion points and that's just his angle on it from a kind of anti-feminist perspective. You kind of have to not take offense if this comments don't apply to how you originally intended your main points to go. My response to your last paragraph of the post I quoted above is that I am unsure if where that boundary lies between sex being purely physical and how that is balance is shared with the emotional side of sex. And how one partner puts more emphasis on the act versus their other partner I think depends on culture, and personal expectations. This is why clear communication should happen between individuals BEFORE they start being physical.
I disagree. Porn has been around for thousands of years and it will continue to be around for thousands more. Even with the increase of its accessibility, porn doesn't show us anything new about sex, people just want to fuck - period :biker: . Porn isn't the issue in my opinion (IMO), it's how society reacts to sex which is the issue and porn doesn't seem to have factored into the societal mood change much IMO. I like to attribute the growing "shallow attitude" towards sex with feminism and women being all around more educated and more independent. Finally we're coming to a time where women can be more open about their sexual desires, and though there is a double standard the blade on that sword is getting duller. Lets be honest as well, the lower a woman puts sex on a pedestal the lower it will be for a man generally. To be honest, I don't see this "shallow attitude" as a bad thing, it shows me we're finally growing up about sex. I mean c'mon, it's one of my favorite ways to show someone I like (or love) them, it should be celebrated not boogeyman. It's a real shame I can see someone getting shot regularly on TV before I see tits :afro: my $.02
But that's the whole point, access is easier, and that's not some small factor you can easily dismiss. That an image quality of the porn, as opposed to erotic cave drawings in eras past.
and be left alone. hell here kids (14-16) robbed a quad parzlyed person at gunpoint( was that nessceray the man can,t move) and took his head gear so he could,nt call the cops. i,m old enough to have morls, and respect. kids today don,t, they act like you owe them something. instead of working for it.
Just cos I rattle off on the internet and make generalizations, doesnt mean I expect you to agree, or listen, or most others even read it. Its still just an opinion and people will overemphasize it to get their point across. Especially in text form it comes of differently to the way the poster intended. And I know on this topic you arent going to agree cos well you are not a cougar yet In part what Bonkai said, some people are just going to want to fuck, full stop. Male and Female. Thats always going to be the case, porn doesnt change that. I get that you see things that way now. Certain guys are jerks, if they dont get it all of a sudden they disappear, you want to feel secure and not get hurt. But thats now, once you are more comfortable with it and can let loose....well then So when the porn thing gets turned into a battle of the sexes thing its really annoying. I get why most guys are dumb as, but when it comes from the chics, its like what are you blind or in denial or something? Back to what I was trying to say about some of those male youngins, some of whom turn into jerks, who do you think trains them to be that way? Just Blame porn because it couldnt possibly be your mum as well. Crazy talk right, she's not like that, how dare I!, blah blah blah, well of course she's not like that in front of you Just so you know for the future thats really friggin insulting to guys out of your league. And you are not talking about the nice ones that want to be sweet to you, but are too shy, either. You are just talking about a few certain jerks who are in part at least that way becuase of how they were trained by women. Women, not porn
I understand your point, everyone has an opinion. But I didn't post this forum to talk about me, so I don't see why you need to make assumptions about my personal life or why I may want to bring this subject to light. Hahah, so maybe it's easier for you to believe that I'm an insecure little girl who gets hurt by jerks.. but it's quite the opposite. So I'm not going to sit here and make assumptions about why you defend pornography so strongly and point fingers towards feminism. Maybe we all have issues but this is just a forum to discuss patterns that have emerged in our society, not to try and diagnose each other.
Its juuuuuuust sex Some of the girls that do porn do it cos they love having sex with lots of different people and they love getting lots of money for it. End up with a nice house, marry some guy that works in the field, then a bunch of kids and end up just like everyone else, except with a bit more money and a bit less cranky
...and so what the accessibility is greater, you think once a kid sees tits the first time their heads explode?! Sex is a biological IMPERATIVE unless we want to go extinct, so by default we are sexual beings and porn is just a reflection of that. The very concept of feminism coupled with sex means women can be more open with their sexuality, how is that at all a bad thing? I think women should be as open as men about their sexual urges/desires/fantasies.
This is a excerpt from an intensive research paper I've written. Just a little bit of history to give you a perspective of how exclusive pornography really was. And yes, humans are sexual beings, but do we need porn to help us identify that? I don't think the answer always has to be yes. "Pornography is a concept that has been in the fringes of society since the first time it could be depicted on cave walls, but it wasn't very well known until the Victorian era, when only people of the higher classes could access erotic art and literature. It was not mass produced until the 20th century, when prints and explicit pictures were distributed amoung the common public within magazines. After the invention of film, pornography was able to be taken to another level where people could go and view moving content in theaters. During the 70's and 80's, VHS became available, and the phanomanon increased because the content could now be viewed from the safety of home. Within these methods of pornographic distribution, content was more exclusive to adults only. Minors had to go to higher extremes to get hands on pornography, like stealing from adult stores, or sneaking their fathers' magazines, even interactions of sales between other young adults.... In the modern era, this content no longer had restrictions of age limit cuffed onto it, as internet users are anonymous. In this modern era, the number of young computer users outnumber and outsmart the elders. This means that explicit content is accessible to anyone and everyone willing to click on pop-ups or accidentally search the wrong keywords on google. Even the slightest curiousity will bring up millions of images and links into the abyss of pornography... Nine out of ten children between the ages of 8 and 16 have viewed adult content, according to a study at the London School of Economics".