All presidents are evil?

I am not particularly politically minded, because I have spent most of my life studying religion and debating religion. Unfortunately, this site seems to be more politically minded than religiously minded, except that many people who consider themselves politically minded on here are absolutely much more ignorant on the subject than me.

There was a time I thought my vote would not count in the grand scheme of politics, because I believed in certainties in life rather than maybe or if. Last time I checked, hippies who proclaim such intelligence in political matters do not adhere to certainties. They are free spirits. Their very lives are based on not knowing what will come next. That kind of thinking does not create political understanding. Rather, it is pseudo-thinking based on lethargy.

For those who claim democrats are just as bad as republicans in the scheme of government obviously know nothing of politics. Democrats are for the people, in making the middle class stronger, and in attempting to always right the wrongs of the previous republican president. Republicans are the ones who do not care for the people. The republicans are notorious for despising anyone who is not rich, and when someone is ignorant enough to claim that the democrats are just as bad as the republicans they are without doubt supporting the republicans who are oppressing them.

By not doing the logical thing by attempting to make the country stronger through democratic rule, those who do not vote are allowing the republicans to win. If you are not voting, you have no right to complain about the state of the country, because you are the problem. You are not attempting to make things better. Instead, you are whining and expecting things to change without doing a frelling thing.

Rather than be ignorant regarding politics, why do you not attempt to actually do something to help better the country in which you live. If all you can do is whine, then you have no right to be a citizen here.

 

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!

If you believe this, you will believe anything.

 

Nice laugh. Ir does not prove whatever adverse point you are obviously ill equipped to make.

 

Haha..well said man...

 

Dude you sound like my granddad and he was quite the right-wing hillbillie.

If you believe that the theoretical idea of democracy is actually implemented in todays governments then you couldn't be more wrong.

In 98% of all cases the politician you elect does not represent you. He will represent what he must or what he damn well pleases.

Have a look at most elections around the world. I believe average voter turn up can be placed between 60 and 65%. Now look at a country where you have more than two parties. The winning candidate will probably get 36 - 42% of the cast votes. Now you do the math. How much of the country does he actually represent?

Right.

Not voting IS an expression of what you want. You express that you do NOT WANT ANY of the candidates because they all look like friggin crooks and liars to you.

There needs to be a change in electoral systems. There needs to be a change in the consciousness of those who want to effectively lead a country. There needs to accountability for the screw-ups.

You want to know the truth? The truth is that you do not become a politician because you're nice guy or you have good ideas. You get MADE.

 

So Obama has not done away with "don't ask, don't tell", he as not given equal pay to women, he has not supported gay marriage, he has not given a strong, undeniable supportable case for supporting the middle class in stating that the rich should be responsible for paying more taxes?

As far as being "made", you were not born with your erroneous, misplaced belief that government is going to change because you turn the other cheek and refuse to vote.

 

Look I don't live where you live but I will give you my opinion based mostly on my gut feeling: Obama is one of the good guys. But the system ate him. He was not tough and experienced enough to get down in the mud. He couldn't get himself the support he needed to get things done.

Who said it was going to change because I don't vote? You will need to quote me on that.

 

That is all bogus superficial shit that ultimately means very little. It's merely designed to polarize people and get them taking sides since they are all issues aimed directly at people's emotions. By targeting the emotions, you override logic. This is why there is such emphasis placed by the media on these topics. They serve as great diversions for people to get hung up on.

Tell me how Obama is any different from any Republican when it comes to foreign policy, the state of Israel, the erosion of personal freedoms and liberties, the police and surveillance state, Homeland Security, TSA molestation, the war on drugs, the Patriot Act and similar acts of legislation that have followed it, the Federal Reserve, etc. On all the important issues that really matter -- not the petty social issues designed to divert people's attention away from the BIG issues of REAL importance -- there is no difference when it comes to Dems and Reps. None whatsoever.

And when it comes to this notion that the Democrats support the Middle Class... that is merely the populist rhetoric they spew, hoping that you will believe it and vote for them like a fool. What they say and what they do are two different things. If anything, the Middle Class is hurting more than ever before. What has Obama done in four years to help the Middle Class? He hasn't done shit other than spew talk he's repeating verbatim off a teleprompter.

 

The very idea of not voting sends a very clear message to the rest of the world that you are silencing your voice in any type of change that could occur. In essence, you are stating that you do not care if republicans destroy the country, because you are not voting against them.

 

A country divided socially will never advance past its differences. Are you informing me that is false? A country must first socially advance before it can make any type of changes that will most assuredly affect the way the country views itself. Otherwise, without social change, the bigger problems cannot be addressed.

 

Well maybe I'd vote republican if i voted at all. What did I say about my political orientation?

Dude, I don't vote. Period. I cannot vote for any of these guys be it in Japan, in France or in Nicaragua.

I haven't paid taxes in 15 years.

I haven't used medical services in those 15 years.

I have renewed my passport once in those fifteen years.

It says issued in Kingston, Jamaica. But I'm not Jamaican.

Do you get the drift?

 

Sounds like hogwash to me.

 

Again, making short poppycock statements is not debate. It merely shows your ignorance on the subject.

 

Repeating slogans and propaganda isn't much better. I cannot debate slogans and propaganda. I can only respond to them with criticism.

 

You must mean that you cannot debate reason and logic. Understood.

 

You know it's true. You just don't like it, because you're a hate monger con. The GOP is the bigot party, made up of the KKK, Aryan nation, and southern confederates.

 

This is the kind of stupidity that you can't dignify with a response.... Its useless.

 

It seems to me the topicstarter deserves at least some constructive criticism though. I am not an american and neither do I always agree with Maelstrom but I tend to agree with this:

 

Can't refute the truth.

 

Name one country ever that has not been socially divided.