ok i heard this somewhere but i wanted to check, is it true that once u have ego loss on acid or u make peace with acid and during this trip if u r given excess information about the world and if ur not capable of holding it it leaks out and u feel as if ur third eye has opened. i actually know one person who told me that he felt his third eye open during one trip ,he claims that he actually felt a plop there physically, though i know third eye thing is a metaphor.
your third eye should open whenever you trip.. definitly for egoloss to take place... thats where your CEVs come from (if im not mistaken) the 1st time i had a psychedelic experience.... I had to find my 3rd eye.. but since then.. i dont have to.. like I was sitting down.. and i blinked and saw a crystal clear image of this red barn... so i closed my eyes and there was nothing.. i seemed to be able to move around in this completely dark room type thing... and there was this bright shining coming down from the upward direction so I looked up so to speak towards it (brow chakra) and once it was centered in my los I couldnt shift myself to another direction.. i was like locked on to it.. but then my body melted away and i was engulfed in white light that burned worse then anything i felt.. but quickly became incredible pleasure... i was this single point of awareness for roughly 30-45 mins which is a decent time to hold onto the cwl flow.. cant really find the words to describe how my process of thinking was changed during that... i just dont have the vocabulary might have been primary or secondary light.. but not really sure.. memory isnt soo good about some of the little details before it happened... but yeah.. there was a point where my 3rd eye was active constantly.. was quite the period of time (bout 2 months.. anytime i closed my eyes) now it only happens when i meditate or on rare occasions (i miss the often and constant)... mirrors tend to be one of the bigger triggers for me.. and also certain smells that remind me of an experience smell
ok i have some more questions, wat is cev's and u said ur third eye was active for a period of three months, how do u know tht its active, wat is the cw flow, and if some guys third eye is already opened he can activate it any time by meditation, wat happens if it gets activated
but wat im interested in is wat if lsd does open it, then wat r the implications does it remain open or gets shut, and the third eye is actually one of the chakras out of the 7 chakras,so can acid actually open ur chakras
"depersonalization" is a pathological psychological state in which a person is not sure of the difference between "self" and "other" "ego loss" is a transendental psychological state in which a person is certain that "self" and "other" are one clear now?
your ego is your personality, all your fears, desires, goals, your perception of right and wrong, the 'morals' you've been imprinted with by others, good & bad... after this 'dies' all thats left is your true inner self, the truth its quite a remarkable experience.. but watching what you once thought was 'yourself' die and fade away into the distant can be a huge blow, its inevitble to get the 'fear' but from a ram dass (richard alpert) interview.. i remember him talking bout his 1st time and he was watching richard alpert die and was about to yell out to Leary 'HELP!!' then he asked himself.. 'whos gonna yell?' and he gained illumination through the realization of the truth. -- and as with the 3rd eye.. 'forcing' it open with drugs is dangerous becuase you usually are not (especially if youve never experienced it and you dont have a 'guide') prepared for it.. but to do it naturally your most likely prepared to a higher extent in order for it to happen. and it will close after a session is over for the most part.. but one main goal with psychedelics is to learn to activate these parts of your brain without the drugs.. so you can learn (and easily forget as well) how to activate it on your own.. but there are also times It will open on its own afterwards.. once its been open the chances of being able to open in 'usually' go up.. and it can even open on its own even if you never do drugs, you just arent always as aware of it
I am impressed by the questions you are asking and would like to recommend a book that has helped me understand the psychedelic experience. It is called "millbrook" and is a narrative of the early years of the psychedelic revolution. Millbrook was the estate in New York that became a center for psychedelic research in the 60's. Leary, Alpert, and Kleps(the author) lived there. It can be found online at okneoac.com. If you can get past some of the oddity's of his style and into the book, I think it can be highly rewarding.
I find egoloss to be found many more times apparent when taking natural substances such as Psilocybin and DMT. Ego loss is on a different level with LSD; Its hard to explain. A fun experiment is to log your trips in notebooks comparing different substances. You'll see the difference.
too mush........brother.....acid is an eye opening experience(excuse the pun) and u should never overanalyse an acid trip if u were given info u were not supposed to have or understand then it is best that u leave it that way and not try and analyse that info.....an acid trip can be a confusing and scary experience...sometimes u just have to admit that some things are beyond our understanding and not dwell on them. but ur queries about the seven chakras is insightful..do u urself believe lsd can activate these chakras......even i have heard this several times but find it hard to digest anyway seeking enlightenment or temporary enlightenment through drugs is a dangerous prospect my friend....but fuck all this man just chill out expand experience and most importantly BOOM brother...what say????hehehehe
you shouldnt analyze and rationalize during the trip so much.. but coming back down and definitly afterwards you should analyze it and understand the meaning(s) & message(s).. its a waste of a trip to have an experience and not try to understand what it meant...
well just as i suspected u r someone who is unable to assimilate the less romantic and exciting answers....there r people here who keep stressing on analysis u urself seem to analyse a lot..there is nothing wrong with it of course we r all free to do and think as we choose but u seem to want peoples opinion and i thought u genuinely wanted people to give u their opinion but obviously u have a slightely inflated ego which has rendered u incapable of considering a different perception...tell me this do u or do u not analyse a little too much and finally where has all this analysis led u,do u know anything new and do u know wether what u have apparently learnt has any semblance of truth in it or is it just a product of an overanalytical mind which is a byproduct of a psychedelic experience. u can assume me to be an idiot...i never said i had all the answers,i like most MERE MORTALS have to make do with whatever i can deduce,i for some reason thoufgt u wanted to know everyones deduction but obviously u r not really looking for answers but confirmation for ur deduction and therefore my WISE & LEARNED friend u shall never have ability or oppotunity to fully understand such a multidimensional phenomenon and so it is u who are and will remain an idiot.
Wow alot of you explained things really well. (except toomush) I've always wondered some of those questions and its hard for me to understand because I've never done LSD before. I have done shrooms but thats no where near the same. (From what I'm told) I would like to try LSD, but to be honest I'm a little afraid because I know alot of people have bad trips. If I decide to try it can you guys give me some pointers on what to do/What not to do ect..
in my observations people seem to "freak out" on mushrooms alot more than acid. i find mushrooms to play more on the emotions, where as acid plays more on the intellect. at least thats the way of it for me
Tripping is entirely dependant on your ego. Your life experiencies previous to you tripping is what shapes your trip. Some people see spiritual meaning to a trip whilst others, like me, simply see the abstract thought processes or lack of thought processes as a confusing of the brain and nothing more. To me it is entirely dependant on your persona, your desires, your fears etc. to how you perceive you trip experiences. I have reached moments of time during a trip where I am at one with everything or oblivious to everything, depending on how you perceive it. These moments are like meditation in that when I'm not thinking about anything, I'm escaping from my life, escaping from my ego but it is all relative; I need to have my ego in order for my escaping it to be pleasurable. apologies for the rambling. G.
