I wonder how full fledged Christians would feel about it though? Betrayed? Lied to? They would probably deny it!
Full fledged christians can disagree with each other pretty well I don't think we could say they all think about it in the same way. But yeah, can't blame them for denying the content of this papyrus.
Interesting find. This won't really shake Christians' beliefs..At least I don't think so. Over time people make up what they want to believe, none of it really matters anyway. The majority of Christians believe in Hell, but the idea was never mentioned in the Bible. If people want to believe a holy man (I believe Jesus to be human, a Siddartha type person. Enlightened, but not mystical) didn't have a family despite scientific proof, then let them. All religion basically have the same aim. To make you a decent person.
People can be happy and decent without religion. The initial intention of religion was to control the masses.
Exactly. I used to be obsessed with following some type of religion and I studied every one I'd ever heard of. Eventually, they all seemed too innately similar and I decided that choosing this one or that one made no difference. I'm happy being a spiritual person.
I think both of these are correct. Depending on who you ask. Leaders are controllers and the followers just want to be good people! Too bad this scrap of information won't enlighten some. Fortunately, I believe some people will take this into consideration when debating on the truths of Christianity and religion as a whole. Who can you trust if you can't trust the Bible??? Jesus would just put his hands on her cooter and heal it!!
but wouldn't this all be well before him being "the son of christ".. he was just a carpenter at this point.. he had no special powers.. hell for all we know.. he could've been a shitty carpenter
yeah, no one has ever said that he was a good carpenter. If he was that good there would still be pieces of his furniture in circulation! (Wish I could find a table made my Jesus Christ himself!) Name a famous furniture designer... won't name Jesus!
It's all smoke and mirrors, otherwise known as religious faith. No one is ever going to prove that Jesus Christ ever existed, no one. Can't be done, there will always be doubt unless we unearth a huge cache of trans cultural, trans national records that can be cross checked, as in Roman, Jewish, Egyptian, Greek, etc. records, reliable historical passages (there aren't any undisputed ones), or physical evidence; all that can be scientifically shown to date from the time of his alleged existence, not after. Ever notice how someone "discovers" Noah's Ark every 5 or 10 years? Then you never hear about it again. Might as well look for "The True Cross". ...and I am not going to get into a debate about those disputed historical passages I mentioned, been there.
Ancient gods, including the recent Egyptian, Roman, and Greek gods, have passed into myth. I suppose that is the best for which we can hope concerning the Judeo-Christian god.
no. the motivation WAS to stop people from screwing everything up for each other. to create a source of motivation for them not to. the approach taken was manipulative, and those inclined toward manipulation and self agrandisment ceased upon it. the gap is between innocent motivation and not so innocent implimentation. the concept of masses and the controlling of them, did not yet exist at the time of "adam", who was the first revealer of organized belief. also, WHAT you can trust, which isn't a who, there isn't any who you can trust because infallability is beyond physical existence, is that diversity is the nature of reality.