Ku Klux Klan republicans lynching Obama in effigy

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  1. rjhangover

    rjhangover Senior Member

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  3. dixie_pixy

    dixie_pixy HighMandi

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    Cant give a damn about the KKK! Wish they received as much hate as they put out! Karma will kick em in the ass!! Have a nice life in Hell!!
     
  4. Tboney

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    I couldn't agree more but rj is judging a whole population of people based on the actions of a few red-neck idiots!! That is moronic and disgusting!
     
  5. TheGhost

    TheGhost Auuhhhhmm ...

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    This Clint's idea?? :eek:
     
  6. rjhangover

    rjhangover Senior Member

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    80% of the GOP come from the remnants of the confederate states. Wake up.
     
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    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Wake up! You are 80% retarded......
     
  9. zombiewolf

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    ^^^Brilliant retort.:rolleyes:
     
  10. Tboney

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    Why thank you!
     
  11. rjhangover

    rjhangover Senior Member

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    Not for sure, but I think he was making fun of your sophomoric name calling as a substitute for adult debate, and total ignorance of percentage of the GOP. 80% of the GOP red states are in the south. Get it now?
     
  12. Meliai

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    Thats not really true. While its true that the majority of voters in southern states vote Republican, the majority of voters in the midwestern states also vote Republican. Not to mention a significant minority in states that generally are more left leaning. Therefore I think you're kinda pulling that 80% statistic out of thin air.

    Not to mention the biggest players in the GOP don't neccessarily hail from the south. The Bush's are old Connecticut blue bloods with fake texas accents. Romney is from Michigan.
     
  13. zombiewolf

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    yup
     
  14. rjhangover

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    Not out of thin air...check the bottom lines in red.

    Realignment: The South becomes Republican

    In the century after Reconstruction ended in 1877, the white South identified with the Democratic Party. The Democrats' lock on power was so strong, the region was called the "Solid South." The Republicans controlled certain parts of the Appalachian mountains, but they sometimes did compete for statewide office in the border states. Before 1964, the southern Democrats saw their party as the defender of the southern way of life, which included a respect for states' rights and an appreciation for traditional southern values. They repeatedly warned against the aggressive designs of Northern liberals and Republicans, as well as the civil rights activists they denounced as "outside agitators." Thus there was a serious barrier to becoming a Republican.
    However, since 1964, the Democratic lock on the South has been broken. The long-term cause was that the region was becoming more like the rest of the nation and could not long stand apart in terms of racial segregation. Modernization that brought factories, businesses, and cities, and millions of migrants from the North; far more people graduated from high school and college. Meanwhile the cotton and tobacco basis of the traditional South faded away, as former farmers moved to town or commuted to factory jobs.
    The immediate cause of the political transition involved civil rights. The civil rights movement caused enormous controversy in the white South with many attacking it as a violation of states' rights. When segregation was outlawed by court order and by the Civil Rights acts of 1964 and 1965, a die-hard element resisted integration, led by Democratic governors Orval Faubus of Arkansas, Lester Maddox of Georgia, and, especially George Wallace of Alabama. These populist governors appealed to a less-educated, blue-collar electorate that on economic grounds favored the Democratic party, but opposed segregation. After passage of the Civil Rights Act most Southerners accepted the integration of most institutions (except public schools). With the old barrier to becoming a Republican removed, traditional Southerners joined the new middle class and the Northern transplants in moving toward the Republican party. Integration thus liberated Southern politics, just as Martin Luther King had promised. Meanwhile the newly enfranchised black voters supported Democratic candidates at the 85-90% level.
    The South's transition to a Republican stronghold took decades. First the states started voting Republican in presidential elections--the Democrats countered that by nominating Southerners who could carry some states in the region, such as Jimmy Carter in 1976 and 1980, and Bill Clinton in 1992 and 1996; the strategy did not work with Al Gore in 2000, or John Edwards in 2004. Then the states began electing Republican senators to fill open seats caused by retirements, and finally governors and state legislatures changed sides. Georgia was the last state to fall, with Sonny Perdue taking the governorship in 2002. Republicans aided the process with systematic gerrymandering that protected the African American and Hispanic vote (as required by the Civil Rights laws), but split up the remaining white Democrats so that Republicans mostly would win. In 2006 the Supreme Court endorsed nearly all of the redistricting engineered by Tom DeLay that swung the Texas Congressional delegation to the GOP in 2004.
    In addition to its white middle class base, Republicans attracted strong majorities from the evangelical Christian vote, which had been nonpolitical before 1980. The national Democratic Party's support for liberal social stances such as abortion drove many former Democrats into a Republican party that was embracing the conservative views on these issues. Conversely, liberal Republicans in the northeast began to join the Democratic Party. In 1969 in The Emerging Republican Majority, Kevin Phillips, argued that support from Southern whites and growth in the Sun Belt, among other factors, was driving an enduring Republican electoral realignment. Today, the South is again solid, but the reliable support is for Republican presidential candidates. Exit polls in 2004 showed that Bush led Kerry by 70-30% among whites, who comprised 71% of the Southern voters. Kerry had a 90-9% lead among the 18% of the voters who were black. One third of the Southerners said they were white evangelicals; they voted for Bush by 80-20%.


    http://conservapedia.com/Republican_Party
     
  15. RetiredHippie

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    I think that means 80 percent of the one third white southern evangelicals voted for bush.

    80 percent of the voters who identify themselves as white evangelicals in other words
     
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    I googled "what percent of republican voters are remnants of the confederacy". It refused to give the answer. I got the information from MSNBC. It was reported that 80% were remnants of the confederacy. I didn't just dream it up.
    Whether you can see that the southern states vote republican or not, that's the way it is. The majority of republican voters come from those states. Other red states, like Montana, Wyoming, Utah, and Nebraska don't have large populations. Most Democrat voters come from former "Yankee" states.
    When did the Republican Party become the party of racism?


    There's a post up this morning at a Republican blog arguing that the Democratic Party is the party of racism in this country, so I thought maybe a little history lesson was in order. Fifty years ago, that might have been true. Then the Democratic Party under Lyndon Johnson forced through Civil Rights legislation in the early 1960s. Racists and segregationists in the Democratic Party read the writing on the wall: they were no longer welcome in the Democratic Party.

    The current Republican worldview regarding race and racism dates from the presidential elections of 1964 and 1968. In 1964, Barry Goldwater was the Republican candidate for President of the United States. From Wikipedia:
    In the 1964 presidential campaign, Barry Goldwater ran a conservative campaign, part of which emphasized "states' rights." Goldwater's 1964 campaign was a magnet for conservatives. Goldwater broadly opposed strong action by the federal government. Although he had supported all previous federal civil rights legislation, Goldwater made the decision to oppose the Civil Rights Act of 1964. His stance was based on his view that the act was an intrusion of the federal government into the affairs of states and, second, that the Act interfered with the rights of private persons to do business, or not, with whomever they chose. In addition, Goldwater's primary delegate slate from the South had no blacks, but was filled instead with white segregationists.

    All this appealed to white Southern Democrats, and Goldwater was the first Republican to win the electoral votes of the Deep South states (Louisiana, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, and South Carolina) since Reconstruction. However, Goldwater's vote on the Civil Rights Act proved devastating to Goldwater’s campaign everywhere outside the South (besides Dixie, Goldwater won only in Arizona, his home state), contributing to his landslide defeat in 1964. A Lyndon B. Johnson ad called "Confessions of a Republican," which ran in the North, associated Goldwater with the Ku Klux Klan. At the same time, Johnson’s campaign in the Deep South publicized Goldwater’s full history on civil rights. In the end, Johnson swept the election.​
    Goldwater's campaign was a naked appeal to Southern white racists to bolt the Democratic Party and support the Republican Party. In return for the support of Southern white racists, Goldwater implicitly pledged to oppose civil rights for African-Americans. And Republicans wonder why African-Americans seem to bear a grudge. In 1968, Richard Nixon ran an enhanced version of Goldwater's "Southern Strategy" and beat a Democratic Party badly divided over the Vietnam War. Four years later, in the 1972 presidential election, Richard Nixon won more than 70% of the popular vote in the "Deep South" states and Florida, and over 60% in all the other states of the former Confederate States of America.

    Nixon would later resign as the result of the Watergate scandal, but Republicans had found--in the explicitly racist "Southern Strategy"--the strategy they would use to win all Republican presidential victories since: 1980, 1984, 1988, 2000, and 2004. Whether it was Ronald Reagan speaking in Philadelphia, Mississippi sixteen years after the murders of Chaney, Goodman, and Schwerner or George H.W. Bush's invocation of Willie Horton, the Southern Strategy has always been at the center of the Republican Party's strategy.

    In Virginia, the coming death of the Southern Strategy was heralded by the victory of Democrat Jim Webb over Republican George Allen in the 2006 U.S. Senate race. Allen was a long time practitioner of the kind of "dog-whistle" racism that was the Southern Strategy's stock in trade. But then Allen went a bit too far and an overtly racist remark by Allen cost him the election when it was caught on tape by a Webb volunteer. Overnight, it seemed, racism had stopped working as an electoral strategy. Then came 2008, and Barack Obama carried Virginia and it wasn't even close. This despite the fact that Republican activists in Virginia did their best to get the word out that Barack Obama was, you know, a Negro. The Southern Strategy failed in Virgina and North Carolina in 2008.

    Bob McDonnell abandoned the Southern Strategy in 2009. He ran a straightforward, well-organized conservative campaign and won convincingly. McDonnell asked for--and got--the support of more than one prominent African-American. McDonnell's campaign appeared to mark a large step forward for Southern Republicans in terms of how they dealt with race in elections. It isn't clear why McDonnell felt the need to reopen old wounds this year with "Confederate History Month." If Republicans like Bob McDonnell choose to associate themselves with racists, well, that's their choice, but as a long-term strategy for victory it doesn't appear too promising.

    http://www.the-richmonder.com/2010/04/when-did-republican-party-become-party.html
     
  18. zombiewolf

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    You wouldn't believe how many "confederate remnants"( mostly Texans btw) took up residency in Montana after the civil war, mostly due to a near non-existence of 'blackies' in the northern territories.
    All these generations later, I have to hear their offspring spout passed down racist jokes in the bar, though most of them have rarely met, much less spoken with an actual black person. :(
     
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    Hey bonehead, my whole point is that there is no intelligent debate with people like you. I am not disputing the percentage of GOP red states! I am disputing your characterization of all GOP supporters.... Making those kinds of sweeping generalizations is by definition ignorant....
     
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    No shit genius!!!
     
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