Oh I've had my dance with salvia. Here's one of my trip reports- http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=457795&f=124. Hellish dimensions, shaman insights, enlightening ego-shattering experiences.. salvia deserves respect. It may seem like an escape, but salvia taught me that if you avoid and fight your true inner being, peace will never exist in your reality.
I was out of school, alone and suicidal. I can see why DPH and DXM were so appealing to me back then.
Many years ago when I was 15 I ate 1000mg dph via nydol and 800mg dxm. It was fucked, to say the least.
You got the right message from it, but.... what the FUCK is up with all the escape shit? WHAT about salvia seems like an escape? Yeah, I'd like to go vacation in hell for a few weeks, sounds like a relaxing escape.... Stop believing the things the man tells you about drugs. Some things, like opiates, are escapes.... some things, like psychedelics, are far from it and will be hellish if you try to do that with them.
Alright my salvia experience was years after DPH! after my dark days I never touched benadryl again and never will. We learn. I never did salvia as an escape, but to gain insight, have questions answered and her entity was powerful, beautiful
i am glad u are ok. i went through hell by benatrippin, it's not worth it. benadryl really is a nasty high, i mean, the body feeling is good and the hallucinations are cool unless ur in a bad mood..then ull have a scary trip. and it's really bad for you and tolerance goes up fast.
I think maybe when I am in a better state mentally I will try a full on Diphenhydramine trip...I've only taken just enough to think I was conversing with people who weren't there then realized I was alone. But yeah I can see how it could be dangerous since it basically causes disassociation. Datura would also be interesting as well, but for whatever it's worth I'm trying to improve my mental health. so i don't think strong disassociates would be a good idea for me. Someday though since I doubt my drug curiosity is going to die.
I "tripped" on Dramamine twice when I was 16; the first time there were realistic looking spiders coming out of everywhere. I thought they were real, or rather kept forgetting they weren't. The 2nd time was a few months later, I ate a tube of Dramamine I was sitting on a beach looking out at Lake Michigan. This big transparent spider (like it was made of glass, or water), which was about the size of a medium sized dog, was hopping across the sand. There was also a transparent, featureless human sitting in the sand looking out at the lake. I knew they were fake this time but all the same it was eerie. I find it very odd that there seems to be a kind of information or data inside of these deliriants. You'd think the realistic hallucinations would vary subjectively from individual to individual, and to an extent they do, but a lot of people experience largely the same things: spiders, other insects, friends and family appearing and disappearing, smoking phantom cigarettes that vanish. This isn't particularly unusual I guess, in that there are common themes or archetypes people experience on various drugs, like the beings people often encounter on DMT or 4th plateau DXM, etc.
Deliriants (Benedryl) and dissociatives (MXE, Salvia, and DXM) have definitely brought me the furthest 'out there' than anything else including DMT. I've experienced ego death many a times but nothing compares to feeling 'true' death like the times I was trapped in that buzzing steel cage of MXE purgatory or when I simply no longer existed on 4th plat DXM. Strange strange chemicals indeed.
I do because I love drugs. LOL Simple as that. I love how chemicals effect the mind and body. What better guinea pig to better understand that chemical reaction than yourself? It's been a long time since those OTC days but I'll never forget those trips. I probably never will trip on dxm or 'dryls again because it's a very cut and dry trip, imo. There isn't much digging to do. I did find MXE quite deep though, Salvia too in a way more confusing manner. Salvia trips def take the longest to digest. Nothing seems to shock the piss outta your body more than being transported somewhere completely random and not remembering how or why you are there.
A lot of people class salvia as a dissociative but that never seemed quite right to me. Then again it's hard to really classify it as anything, since it's probably the most idiosyncratic drug I've ever done. MXE is my favorite drug though, along with opiates. I was doing it nearly non stop from last Fall until it was banned in the UK earlier this year. I was also a DXM enthusiast in my teens and early 20s and my MXE experiences definitely felt like a spruced up variation on some of my better DXM trips. What really fascinating about MXE was that it feels like it has a certain magic to it and seemed to frequently provoke these uncanny synchronicities in my daily experience, and well as inducing a lot of sensations of deja vu. It was like somehow evolving by way of apophenia and megalomania, seeing signs and patterns everywhere.
I've had some MXE experiences be eerily similar to DXM but never as theatrical and rarely as colorful.
For me the best thing about DXM was during the peak when I'd be lying in bed and all my surroundings would slip away. The bed would vanish from under me and I'd be high up, feeling myself suspended over a landscape or city far below. Then it was like I glided into a tunnel and I would physically feel myself sliding through canals into various zones and sometimes encounter entities. At times it would be different than that but similar, and I'd never know where I'd end up. Sometimes it would manifest as a labyrinth or something like being inside of a slowly moving 3D painting. There were very intricate, all-encompassing closed eye hallucinations that were stunning and beautiful, and what was great was they were usually influenced by the music I was listening to at the time. MXE gave me similar experiences though they weren't quite as ornate, but I still prefer MXE because I found it overall smoother, more invigorating and mysterious. Unlike DXM it took my perception farther out in a manner similar to the way tryptamines will, but with absolutely no anxiety. Also it's great at lower sub-hole doses for totally different reasons, as it lifts me up and smooths me out. I could sure go for a line right now...
I hear ya, man. P.S. You got me jonsing! I haven't done MXE in 6 months or so. IM and oral proved to be the best ROA. I didn't take it orally for some time because no one really knew it was so awesome lol.
I only ever insufflated it. Unlike a lot of RC's it's pretty conducive to that ROA since it goes up real smooth with no burn. Do you know any RC sites outside of the UK that still sell it in grams, as opposed to wholesale?
The curiosity of doing benadryl keeps capturing me, it's just the spider thing that freaks me out. I've done dramamine several times and not once have I hallucinated spiders (though once I did hallucinate a raccoon in my apartment). Maybe it's just me. *shrugs*