God does not exist

I am not restrained in being.

Is there a conflict?

It seems circular lack of distinction to say love is life and in turn life is love.
Blue green algae is love and love is blue green algae.

I am that I am.

I thought you weren't me.

We create together. Joy awaits not time or distance but invitation.

 

thedope:

No, so is there a reason you haven't answered the question?

You seem to suggest there is by having love what we are as opposed to what we do.

How does it seem so? Have you ever found them apart?

That's not an argument! It's a declaration. And it doesn't mean you shouldn't still eat your spinach.

That the personal belongs to everyone means that everyone is a person, not the same damn one! lol

Yes, but I'm still not sure joy awaits anything...if we choose it though, if we choose ourselves, there is every possibility we could find out! :-D

 

I aM..tHeRe fOr I tHiNk..this conversation is getting a polarity between logic and feeling.
i propose that niether of the two are constant. GoD id constant.God dosent change a mind,the mind changes when god is understood. really its kind of like looking at ones nose..it is so close...most people do not see it.
and for good reason many times existance is so real i can not stand it.
the facts of life.
than i meditate and it all seems less important...that human existance is so limited.
life for me did not turn out how i would have hoped...however...i do my best everyday. the best i can do.
"thank love this moment..in its perfection". praise love for my human condition.
isha judd..i think.
i think tomorow will be better.sorry bout the typos...could not be bothered putting it through spell check.
cheers ink8290

 

That is quite an unreasonable assertion. I stay away for a few days, and the thread goes to hell from stupidity. God cannot be understood if there is no proof of his existence. To state that he has to be taken on faith is one thing. Remember that. Faith is all you have.

 

Why not?

 

Question hadn't come up till you asked it. In searching my causes, the answer I gave is the answer I found. Having and being are the same truth.
Going within I find nothing missing. If there is something I want at this point, I can't say what it is.

We are never what we do. No conflict there. We do things while we are. We can do one thing in one moment and another in another moment, all the while you are the same being.

If water turns to ice does it mean that water is cold?

By definition. The words are separate entries in the dictionary, with separate meanings.

You found some reason to argue against it.

Our choice is it's invitation.

 

Where is hell and where is stupidity?

God can be understood by definition. Look it up.

So far, all you have is your statement of faith.

 

I don't think you have any room to talk about unreasonable assertions, mister "God does not exist."

 

thedope:

We're so different! For me to find 'peace' in such a way would be to contain my life to merely meeting its functions. My longing is never gone long.

You say having and being are the same truth, yet we're never what we do? We don't love?! You say I am that I am, and yet now...not? lol Being is ever doing, nothing is static. That the moment continues means being is nothing but becoming!

And about that ice water, to speak plainly, and to all purposes, yes! :-D

You find love and life apart by definition!? LOL No, you only find the words love and life to be different words.

How could I argue against your being that you are? I only remind that you become what you are. We are what we do to the finest detail. We are never without being.

Yes.

 

It is the nature of hunger to never be satisfied.

Regardless what you are doing.

If water is cold how can it boil?

Definition is what I asked for.

 

thedope:

Should we fast in protest? :-D

Yes, but that doesn't mean I may not continue with it.

lol Try a kettle kid. On this subject, you'll find I'm like ice. :-D

But not apart.

 

Good with soft drinks?

 

I believe and that's all I need

 

Essentially, same here

 

God does exist and she's a crazy woman.

 

:coffee: Glares over her coffee mug .....

 

god does exist . does exist is a perception and a relational feeling .
seems i don't mind extraordinary existence . i won't deny existence
like i shall respect wild conciousness . i've been touched . faith means
i've been touched twice , then after that , meaningfulness begins .

i do not mind that old-time expression - god is within the desert wind .

i trust the birds who know the wind to tell me true . i'll
make meaningfulness of the hawk who stands before me ,
and i'll trust the wild light that we share . it's a glory and
a pleasant kindness on a sunny late afternoon , a moment
thinking of you , and just when the work in the fields is all done .

jesus ? he say spirit shall prove itself and with kindness . for
this , jesus is alright and your friend .

 

Your position is called positivism, which I discussed at some length on another thread. It's the view that we must have "proof" for everything we believe, defined in strictly empirical terms. It was the rage in the nineteenth and twentieth centuries (until post-modernism), but it's gone out of style because of its "either-or" rigidity. String theory and M theory, for example, are taken seriously by respectable scientists and mathematicians, but there is no empirical "proof" for them, nor even evidence from sense data. Some propositions seem more reasonable than others, but might not be subject to "proof" as that term is usually used. By the way, for the third time, what do you mean by "proof"? Are "probable cause" or "substantial evidence" enough? Do you think Socrates existed?

 

Being an atheist and not an aviarist, I know god exists. Just not for me, despite what the best-intentioned believers think. The concept has not been humanly embodied, even though it has been believed to be. How to fly into the future together when it is believed we already are by peering into it?!

My friends, peerlessness is not lovelessness!

 

i guess this thread is still going.
i have had an experience of something bigger than myself.....sometimes i call it god... i ….in full sanity and clarity of mind …fully experienced every molecule in the universe all at one time and there where trillions of subatomic particals radiating love. Everything was love. i do not know if the experience messed me up or was of huge benefit?
I know I feel very anxious at times....at present.
I wish that would stop.
as far as Christ goes...yeah i like Jesus for sure.