Causes, besides genetics, for...

Discussion in 'Genitalia' started by monkjr, Oct 13, 2012.

  1. monkjr

    monkjr Senior Member

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    Ok this isn't a typical penis size thread.

    But I wanted to throw out a question about penis size length that hasn't been asked as of yet.

    We know that the length and girth of your penis, and it's sensitivity, are affected by our genetics.

    Are there environmental factors that affect the development of our private areas both within the womb and later during our puberty years? How do you think this pollution affects girls as well?

    With all of us being exposed to the chemical BPH, which we now know is harmful because it mimics estrogen in the human body, does it hinder the PROPER development of our private parts as coded by our DNA? (sensitivity, girth, length).

    Also being overweight, also generates higher levels of estrogen in the body which can cause precocious puberty, and I wonder if in the case for men, if that also hinders penis development.

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    Now this can go for girls as well, in terms of sensitivity, or lack thereof in their own genitals (clit, g-spot). How does the environment affect them as well developmentally speaking from pollution?

    Question at everybody: At what age did you start puberty? Were you overweight at the time of its onset?

    (NOTE: Perhaps this should go in the sexual health, sub-forum as well)


    Anybody can comment on this to give their own views on the situation.
     
  2. Irresponsible Hermit

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    well, seems to me the question is somewhat academic.

    but it sorta links in that I saw a guy on tele who was grossly overweight. his sperm count was low and so he could not sire children (he was SO large I actually wondered how he could have sex ... doggy probly? normal cowgirl possibly?).
    specialists said that his testes were so hot from being insulated by all the fat on is thighs that they could not produce enuf/suitable sperm ... so he was trying to lose weight.

    so the moral of the story is that despite penis size nature has decided that obese people should not breed ... and that sounds like a good idea to me.

    cheers!
     
  3. monkjr

    monkjr Senior Member

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    Same goes for people who are too skinny. Nature makes it so people have to be in what I call the "Goldilocks zone" of health in order to reproduce.

    Unfortunately nature hasn't quite got it pat down when it comes to having only mentally sane people reproduce, but what are ya going to do?

    Still it is a very academic question, and I thought it would be a nice change of pace, seeing as nobody asked it yet.

    And this is hipforums, so I was hoping some people here would come from the backround of anti-pollution, health wise conscious, and suspicious of big pharma medicines and treatments.

    But alas usually my topics get slow responses, sometimes I wonder if the reason I don't get responses right away is because I'm not making my initial posts clear enough.
     
  4. Duck

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    Marijuana use raises estrogen levels.

    Stressful childhood lowers your production of human growth hormone.

    These are my excuses for any potential lovers out there.
     
  5. monkjr

    monkjr Senior Member

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    So you think there is credibility with high estrogen levels in a young man's body, during the puberty years can hinder penis length and girth?
     
  6. Duck

    Duck quack. Lifetime Supporter

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    I think it's possible, but I don't know a lot about hormones. I do know that high estrogen levels can cause young men to grow boobs..
     
  7. pensfan13

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    I have heard that hormoans fed to the chicken and cows we eat are making girls hit puberty sooner and longer, im sure the same can be said for boys so all the factors your talking about could make a noticable difference. But genetics is so strong that I dont think there would be more than a minute difference in size now than if your mom jumped in time machine when she was pregnant.
     
  8. monkjr

    monkjr Senior Member

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    Well if the hormones in our diet and in processed foods are creating such dramatic effects to cause 8-10 year old boys/girls to hit puberty, as opposed to the national average of puberty onset say 9 decades earlier before all the processed corporate-industrial food.

    I think those changes are NOT minute. And I should point out that the average penis length HAS GONE DOWN, and we're attributed this change to natural-selection evolutionarily speaking, because that's what women have favored as a size. (possibly true)

    Regardless, what is causing a reduction in penis size for the REST of the overall population to an affect that it's reducing the average. And that isn't the only problem, precocious puberty, has other consequences health wise to people. (higher risk for stunted growth, health problems later in middle-age life)

    I think the answer is hormones, because natural selection changes in a species of that magnitude should take millions of years to occur, not decades or even a century, which is what we're seeing.
     
  9. MikeE

    MikeE Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    Has anyone investigated whether it is nutrition that is causing the early development.
    For most of human history, people have been hungry. Especially children.

    The last centuries increase in calories (and other nutrients) has led to an increase in height, why not also early puberty?
     
  10. pensfan13

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    The early puberty isnt minute but the subject was penis size and it is only my opinion that says despite early puberty that penis size is only affected slightly. There are way to many factors for anyone to say for sure.
     
  11. monkjr

    monkjr Senior Member

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    First off increase in hormones, aren't nutrients. There's a HUGE difference there that anybody should understand if they paid attention and asked the right questions in health class (in high school or even college).
     
  12. monkjr

    monkjr Senior Member

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    Ok fair enough, that is an opinion and you're entitled to it.

    I guess we'll have to discuss one factor at a time in this thread then. It should make for an interesting discussion.
     
  13. Irresponsible Hermit

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    I researched your theory on amateur porn sites. my findings contradict your assertion!

    cheers ...
     
  14. monkjr

    monkjr Senior Member

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    How are amateur porn sites a good source to validate or refute something. It's still porn and it could be fake, it might not even be legit amateur...
     
  15. MikeE

    MikeE Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    Exactly my point.
    Over the last hundred years, our dietary intake of calories and other nutirients has increased, simply because more food is being eaten.

    At the same time (or delayed by few decades) our dietary intake of artificial hormones has also increased.

    I was asking whether early puberty might be a result of the increase in childhood dietary nutrition rather than (or along with) the increase in childhood dietary hormones.

    Is the idea that early puberty comes from increased consumption of phytoestrogens the result of research or is it one of those "that makes sense, it must be true" thinking?
     
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