Benadryl schizophrenia

Yeah, DXM def has more substance to its trip. I mean benedryl is interesting but it really really dries you out and gives quite a hangover.

 

Quality descriptions and thoughts!

I've yet to explore beyond 300 mgs DXM and and have not had an experience this involved with it so I'm suspecting a substantially higher dose range recommended for your response but what dose range would you recommend for types of experiences that you highlight here? I relate with some of what you describe about DXM from my MXE experiences and I often have found MXE rather sparse in it's presentation, DXM has yet to really provide the sense of relaxation that MXE has though. The DXM experience seems to lack the fluidity of MXE and I really feel like my brain is frying on that stuff. Do higher doses of DXM feel more fluid or relaxing?

 

To me DXM isn't fluid at all. It's like the whole experience is chopped into single frames... like my eyes and mind are strobing information. It is kinda hard for my brain to process everything, I usually end up puking the whole night which is why I reached 4th plat and never did it again. That experience will last me a lifetime. It's the hardest I have ever tripped even through all other chems and combos i've done. 60 robotussin gels fucking threw me OUT THERE!

I do love how on a lower dose when you don't completely lose yourself the separation is distinct. Like layers being pulled apart and coming back together. It's such a WILD feel.

 

Thanks, I appreciate that.

Like you said, the MXE hole is very sparse and still, albeit intense. Things do happen there, I have met God or at least I met something there, but in my experience DXM is more about scenery and having a look around some alien space. It was easy to forget myself and let in envelope me and nearly believe in it. But as to your question I find a 4th plateau dose much more relaxing, if not outright anaesthetizing compared to a 2nd plateau one, which is more uppity and stimulating.

I'd suggest around 600 mg, maybe up to 700 but I wouldn't suggest going much past that. I've never done over 600 mg and it was always enough for a strange, immersive experience. Also if you smoke weed, smoke weed. It kicks it up a few levels and makes all the difference, unlike MXE which whenever I mixed it with even a single hit just made me feel like I was tripping out way too hard. Though there is a ton of overlap between DXM and MXE, they are still very different in their respective characters and profiles. I do find MXE 'better', in the way that when I was doing DXM often I only found it worthwhile to go buy it about once or at most twice a month, whereas with MXE I couldn't help but dip into it every day, had to have it and couldn't help myself. I'd run out in no time and order a couple more grams and practically pull my hair out waiting for it to get here from the UK. There are some people who feel they need to take DXM every day, but from what I've read a lot of MXE heads developed a fixation like mine in practically no time at all, which I partly think is because, unlike DXM and like many have observed, MXE mimics the effects of many drugs, and also because it tends to give users a sort of "I've seen the light" mania and enjoy indulging in grandiose, voluntary insanity.

 

the 1st time i tried DXM, i believe i hit 3rd plateau. I couldnt even walk and i fell a lot. i felt like i was in a dream. sometimes i felt like my eyes were closed...similar to when you close your eyes and press on them rly hard with your hands to see colors. i felt like i was being dragged by a string, my feet didnt feel exactly like mine. my friend told me i talked to a pole and thought it was a person, and i also remember not being able to talk right and it felt like my world/vision was spinning. i also felt like my body was stretching at abnormal lengths whenever i'd close my eyes, like my arm stretching a few feet or somethin. it was crazy weird. my pupils were dilated even in the sun.

 

I really wish ketamine was still easy for me to come by, well and cheaper . Seems like it has all the benefits of of both drugs, although the duration is quite a bit shorter. I loved the immersiveness of k holes and while mxe can be ' otherworldly' at times I usually find it fairly lacking. Ketamine is supremely relaxing and mixes well with other drugs well and has that meglomania, synchronstic 'I've seen the light quality' of mxe yet not as manic.

 

I've only had one experience with K and it wasn't a large enough amount to hole, but what I've read about it leads me to believe that it tends to be more ideal purely as a dissociative. MXE however seems more versatile and multidimensional. Something I've noticed over and over again is that, often, people who are really into K seem to think MXE isn't as good, but people who are really into MXE and subsequently try K seem to think K isn't as good. Another factor might be that K is well established and has a certain reputation, whereas MXE is a fairly new RC (though it became quite popular and notorious very quickly, hence how quickly it was banned in the UK) and people are often inclined to hold drugs that are more well known and respected in a higher esteem than something they've barely or haven't heard of, regardless of how good it might be. Just to be clear I'm not referring to you in particular about that.

What part of CA are you in?

 

Ketamine actually makes you hole that is one notable difference. The mental trip of ketamine is much more a sense of journey than mxe to me. Mxe tends to feel more like theatric day dreams, ketamine is like consciousness unhinged into some detached network of cognitive possibilities. Ketamine is not as potent dose wise which may be a reason some who explore mxe first don't respond to ketamine (I also prefer IM injection with both of them which has a more comparative dose range compared to insuffalation) but the ceiling for ketamine is far greater. Dxm has been around for awhile as well and I dont get the impression that Dxm has nearly the esteem as ketamine, perhaps because most explore it via cough syrup and the perceptions that has among many. Mephedrone was popular too for a few years and I always favored MDMA, I favor LSD over 25i-nbome, I dont know if its so much I favor drugs with reputations as I'm hesitant to jump on the trendy drug of the moment bandwagon. Mxe has been cheap as shit though and ketamine has been increasingly difficult to come by so its all good.

I'm in the bay area.

 

Well of course it's all subjective preferences. I also liked MXE at sub-hole doses a lot because I could do 15-20mg bumps and feel keyed up and loose for hours and hours, like a spacier cocaine without a crash. I'm sure I'd love K if I had more experience with it.

I love San Francisco (and Berkeley), along with my native New York it's my favorite city. I lived there in the summer of 2008 and briefly last winter, and I'm coming back out to San Francisco in about a month.

 

Re-reading this, I have to say that you probably just didn't do enough MXE to fall in properly.

 

I've snorted 175 mgs at once, a whole gram in a few hours.

I've injected 150 mgs at once which caused me to vomit and regularly inject 100 mgs and take ~500 mgs in a few hours.

From my understanding those are all fairly substantial doses. How much does it require?

 

That should be quite a lot. Is it possible it may have been cut? I ordered it many times and some batches seemed markedly stronger than others, and I'm not sure how much my tolerance might have been a factor. Or maybe you're a hard head when it comes to MXE and need a lot. I've read reports by people who claimed to have become addicted to the stuff and were taking roughly a gram a day which seems ridiculous to me. Most people say 50mg is a high dose, but I actually don't know how much I used to do since I didn't own a mg scale (I know, that's bad) though based on how much I did in relation to what I had initially, I'd say I've done up to about roughly 250mg. Since despite it's potency MXE holds no anxiety for me, some trips I would push it as far as I could and end up feeling like a single pixel on a TV screen or witness inexplicable narratives and visions play out, having forgotten the memory that I'm me and I took a drug. Sometimes it really surprised me, like the time I found myself in a state resembling salvia space with mechanical salvia rhythms, without the discomfort. Another weird one was the time I'd been doing MXE for days and had forgotten to take my suboxone and withdrawal profoundly affected the trip, and made for one of the strangest and worst things I've experienced; like being in a waking dream, with no memory and a diluted perception of self while writhing around in a dark enclosed space with every movement shooting off sparks of pain. Like Hell crossed with a sensory deprivation tank. My strongest trips (not counting when I mixed it with other hallucinogens like LSD or 6 APB) included ego-death, and were extremely confusing as they wound down. Most of the time I wouldn't go that far though, either because I had things to do that day or to conserve my supply.

I've heard that K is more incapacitating than MXE in general, because within standard MXE doses you have the option to "switch off" the hole if not the trip itself, and basically answer the door if someone knocks or perform basic tasks, albeit visibly impaired. That K is by it's nature a more total and immersive experience, and MXE more functional and easier to control. That was usually the case, but when I did enough I would slip into the void with it's sleek scenery, mandala patterns and the various entities who reside there, and I couldn't have stopped it if I tried.

 

I've had mxe from several reputable vendors. The fact I've done ketamine for 2+ years, Dxm a few times, 4-me0 pcp a few times before trying mxe may have something to do with it not having quite the same impact. I've had some pretty out there experiences on mxe too just the essence of what makes a k hole a 'hole' seems to be largely missing from the mxe experience. After one of my initial IM injection experiences with MXE, I referred to it as a 'M ditch' in jest but the nature of mxe seems more akin to what I've read about DXM plateaus than a k hole. I actually somewhat enjoy walking around loaded on mxe on higher doses, there's all these overly dramatic scenarios that unfold. I don't think I'd take the dose higher than I've gone, I start getting significant memory loss and it seems to not increase the anasthetic effects or make it any more trippy at a certain point.

 

I've heard a few K enthusiasts say similar things. I think the comparison to the higher plateaus of DXM is a good one, though where for me DXM seems placid, on MXE I get the stepped up 'electricity' feeling similar to like I would off LSD.
I like low dose MXE as much as I like it at high doses. I could do roughly 20mg and go to work and feel both keyed up and loose all day. But for me the main thing about MXE isn't even about the psychoactive effects, it's to do with how I noticed it affect the fabric of my life in the days and weeks afterwards. Sometimes extremely unlikely coincidences just happen, but there were far too many synchronicities cropping up far too close together. This seems to have happened to a large percentage of MXE users. There's more but I'm sure reading the description is boring and couldn't adequately describe the true nature of these experiences. It may have been a facet of psychosis, but when I was using it everyday I was convinced that MXE was a "magic" drug.

 

Both ketamine and mxe have been escape drugs to me, I view them more as my opiates like a hallucinogenic heroin and oxycontin or something. I know about the synchronicity thing and it happens with ketamine as well. There was one week a few years ago where I alternated mxe and bath salts daily and let me tell you I was Fucking gone out my head, literally ran around the streets, thought invisible helicopters were in the sky, paranoid as fuck and thinking all these wild conspiracies were taking place. And of course my rational at the time was that the drugs were the only thing keeping me together, so Id get up and do it again. That was a wild couple of days and something I seek not to repeat and makes me not really want to explore something like a benadryl trip.

 

I've taken enough of that shit to talk to non-existent people, but never more then that. Nasty shit though, and the hangover or aftereffects the next day are horrible and totally not worth it. But to each their own.

 

Shit sounds interesting. "Talking to non-existent people". I bet the way it makes you feel ruins the fun.

 

The most i did was 2500mg of diphenhydramine within 3 hrs. i took a starting does of 30 unisom tabs at 11pm with a chaser of 600mg caffine , and was going to bump it every hour by 4-8 to keep it going all night. I was playing fallout 4- new vegas at the time and about 40 min after it kicked in i looked at my clock and it read 3:37am. i was like wtf and took 8. after what felt like a few hours i looked at my clock and it was 11:30pm. it was still dark out so i Knew it was the trip. at this point i thought i should stop but said to hell with it and took 6 more. this goes on for a while of me looking at the clock and it being an hour later or so, and bumped as i planned. it wasnt until the bottle of 100 tabs was gone that i knew it was not the time any of my clocks said. every clock was compleatly differnt. i then attmted to smoke a cig at this time. went out side and there were rather large musroom growing near my huge maple tree. sat down and smoked a min and i saw myself crouched down behind the tree spying on myself. i stared for a min. then proceded to ask him questions with no reply, just hand signals. went in and played some more fallout. ended up listneing to enigma for almost 2hrs. then went outside and watched the sunrise. i thought fer sure i was going to die after the bottle was gone, but instead beat fallout 4 and went into a deeeeep sleep for a day. now i have sitters. lol