Hurricane Sandy (aka Frankenstorm)

It got windy as fuck here last night but luckily it was not nearly as bad as I was expecting and I never even lost power. Other people were not so lucky and there is flooding all over the place. My kids missed 2 days of school and some people still don't have power. The pictures of New Jersey and New York are insane.

 

we had some pretty good flooding, but not much worse than the average spring snowmelt flood.

my view is definitely better. i used to live next to a golf course, but now i overlook a lake.

 

U.S. death toll at 46 now.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/49605748/ns/weather/#.UJCKPm_Aeo4

 

That's getting pretty high for a death count... R.I.P.

 

I agree. I would expect the count would go higher. rest in peace.

 

the wind help the fires that swept Queens.
Dozens of Homes Destroyed in Breezy Point

 

This whole thing feels so weird for me, being from North Carolina, where we tend to obsess a little too much over hurricane plans and preparations and coastal building codes. We're almost paranoid about it. New York and New Jersey seem to go to the opposite extreme, crossing their fingers and hoping for the best. Their damage from a category 1 hurricane looks like what we normally get from a cat 3 or 4.

Why doesn't New York Harbor have huge floodgates, levees, and pumping stations like New Orleans? The New Jersey shore needs monster sand dunes on the beach, like the Outer Banks of NC.

 

Pumps only help so much and for so long. The pumps in Nola went out within the first few hours. R.I.P everyone that has passed.

 

they are not used to hurricanes, that's why i was worried about them up there. they dont have the preventative infrastructure that we have down here

 

This year, everything down there worked fine when the hurricane hit. They're no longer stuck with their old system, which was a piece of shit.

I feel bad for the people in New York and New Jersey who thought they were safe, that somebody had some sort of a plan to keep them safe in a big storm.

I heard one guy say on TV that they didn't even bother with sandbagging the entrances to New York subway stations, because there were hundreds or maybe even thousands of ways for water to get into the tunnels; nobody even knew how many. That's crazy, for a coastal city.

I saw one NJ amusement park that had been built out over the ocean, on wooden legs. People were acting like it was a great tragedy that something bad happened to it. I don't get that kind of thinking. The Atlantic Ocean is not to be fucked with. It doesn't kid around.

Down here, we love the beach, but we know we have to build everything like it is in a war zone.

The Native Americans never built any settlements on a barrier island, because they all knew that they could go completely under water during a storm, and the sand could move somewhere else.

 

^yeah^ so they built an amusement park on wooden legs and were shocked when the hurricane destroyed it? wow

hopefully now they'll start researching what we do in the gulf states to get through storms

 

well, parts of the amusement park had been there for 80 years. just because they didn't necessarily think ahead when they built it doesn't mean it isn't kind of sad to see it go.

 

Rest in peace to the 57 who are known to have lost their lives and to those not found as yet. Mother nature is no joke.

 

Forget the experts, the average homeless man in Charleston, SC would tell you, "That isn't a good idea!"

There's more than one amusement pier in California, but they don't have hurricanes out there. I guess they're okay. The one in Santa Monica seems to be the most famous.

Just don't mention the floating casino in Biloxi. That was not one of our finest moments. I didn't even last long enough to get completed! :rofl: You can't feel too bad for the owners.

In the pictures I saw this morning, there appears to have been more than one.

I can see people thinking that if something hasn't happened for 80 years, it will never happen again. Problem is, it isn't true. It may happen again next year.

Hurricanes seem to come in bunches. Wilmington NC has been hit by more major storms than any other US city, but Long Island NY has had two since the last time Wilmington got one.

A regional expert on coastal management (professor at Duke University) who gets interviewed a lot has said for years that New Jersey was doing the worst job of any US state. They really do need to think long and hard about this before they start building everything back exactly like it was. If they don't know what works, they can ask somebody who does.

 

R.i.p jersey shore

 

Pretty sure it's a very old subway, and not much way to just go seal all the tunnels, even if you planned in advance for this.

amusement parks on piers are commonplace pretty much everywhere that's not new orleans.

There aren't levvys and pumps and crap not because someone was being reckless, but because there never HAVE been, prior to our recent (and accelerating) bout of climate change, you did not GET hurricanes in new england, you might get some rain from an arm, and then it would be sunny in the morning. There's been no need of levvys in new york for hundreds of years.

You're looking at this from the prospective of someone who lives in a totally different area, and sees different precautions as standard. New orleans probably does not have a huge fleet of orange dump trucks full of sand and salt with massive snow plow blades on the front..... that's because it doesn't snow there. But every new england town and state DOES have such a fleet. And we're not saying new orleans is retarded for not having them.

The thing is a weather change, not that 80 years ago people just didn't understand where to build amusement parks, but it miraculausly survived this long. That is, in fact, a great example: it lasted that long because it was a fine design.

I mean this will obviously start to change now, since we're destroying the world. But prior to this there was no reason to have levvys in new york.

 

yeah, i know parts of the atlantic city boardwalk were destroyed too. i think that may have been even older. but from your post it sounded like you were talking about the casino pier in seaside heights, which i guess was pretty much completely destroyed. that's the one i was referring to that started being built at least 80 years ago.

 

Was definitely kind of weird seeing areas I've lived around all my life totally fucked up. Didn't grow up at the shore or anything, but definitely spent my fair share of time there.

 

i have lived in Louisiana for almost 30 years,i have been in and seen more hurricanes then i would care to remember.

 

A good article about the storm:

The Hideous Inequality Exposed by Hurricane Sandy

http://www.theatlantic.com/business...inequality-exposed-by-hurricane-sandy/264337/