Do people still believe 911 wasnt a inside job?

Implying he worked for the NSA. He and his ex employers could persuade the world bank to loan a country one billion dollars. Infrastructure improvements only help a few rich people. 'Perkins has alleged U.S. Government complicity in "the assassinations of President John F. Kennedy, Senator Robert F. Kennedy, Martin Luther King Jr., former Beatle John Lennon, and several unnamed U.S. senators who had died in plane crashes.'

 

now now lets not get into a tizzy. I explained reaffirmation re-pledging not pledging. Since you want to mince words, we can go there with you.

Not totally defunct. thats not how it works. its layered. given a new coat of paint for the same old bullshit to bring it forward. however if there is ever a controversy about it those old archaic laws define the subsequent layer.

amazing how you try to sweep EVERYTHING under the carpet.

 

you mean osama bin laden wasnt responsible for that too?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBg64Bfxp4c"]British Still Own US - YouTube

 

I don't think you did.

Who is this 'we'?

I'm saying that with out more substance/information your just creating an incredible amount of bluster.

 

I'm just saying that no one is going to spend a lifetime trying to educate someone with 40 years of research in a couple forum posts. LOL

Especially someone who is suffering from general denial of the obvious that requires everything crammed down their throat. If you want to understand it research it, the library is your friend, dont expect me to teach you. NOT going to happen.

 

I know this isn't true. I have a feeling you know that, too. That's why I am asking to add some meat to the bone - not to be educated, but to see if what you are saying is credible.

If your evidence the UK owns the US is some 250 year old treaty, and everything else is 'modern day disinformation,' then I think you need to do some more research.

You are not really providing linear historical evidence - you are providing your opinion, which is fair enough - just be honest enough to admit that.

 

as I said ad boringustotearus; he did not state it with the meaning of entering into liege, (as the commentator incorrectly described it), he stated a reaffirmation of liege. That means the liege pledge already existed. That is exactly the same as being married for 50 years and reaffirming the original marriage vows after 50 years had passed.

and just for kicks for those who do not know what liege is:

I suppose its not too difficult what putting the word "all" in front of it [al]egiance] means. Shall we mention the american feudal version while we are having so much fun?

"Pledge" is a legal term with very specific meaning not the watered down version they are saying and that is just the first one same applies for thee rest.

Now I wont nit-pick their mostly incorrect koolaid/puppy chow definitions of what each phrase means any further but there it is the american feudal pledge.

hardly, but lets see how much you know shall we? how about you recite the exact legalese the (crown), king would use to prove he had no interest in some holding.

and queenie admitted to owning or having ownership interests in over 1/3 of the planet.

on the contrary why dont you do a little research and you will find that even TODAY this very second in history the US Supreme court quotes the magna charta. LOL

and they are all bankrupt!



ohahas daddy was a brit, since you believe you know law I need not explain it further to sufficiently answer your question. which of course takes us back up to the liege obligations

 

I think he was raising his glass to The Queen's Jubilee/David and Samantha Cameron and the US/UK alliance/special relationship. The word 'allegiance' wasn't mentioned. She made some argument about him making allegiance to some alliance or alliance top some allegiance. It didn't really matter because her main point was that the UK was some megalomaniac of a super power - pulling the strings of the US. If only that were true. I guess the whole argument that the UK is merely the lapdog of the US is ignored within your and her argument (such as it is.) It's like the last 60 years hadn't happened.

I'm quite sure there are other videos when Obama mentioned the word 'alliance', bowed to that person or shook hands with this person, and obviously was pledging some form of allegiance (I'm thinking the Saudi Kin/Japanese Emperor/Chinese communist President).

So forgive me if I just add that video to the endless anti-Obama whacko theories and *chuckle*.

Atleast she said it all with a straight face.

 

Do you mean the commonwealth?

The Commonwealth of Nations, normally referred to as the Commonwealth and formerly known as the British Commonwealth, is an intergovernmental organisation of 54 independent member states. All members except Mozambique and Rwanda were part of the British Empire, out of which the Commonwealth developed.
The member states cooperate within a framework of common values and goals, as outlined in the Singapore Declaration. These include the promotion of democracy, human rights, good governance, the rule of law, individual liberty, egalitarianism, free trade, multilateralism and world peace. The Commonwealth is not a political union, but an intergovernmental organisation in which countries with diverse social, political and economic backgrounds are regarded as equal in status.
Activities of the Commonwealth are carried out through the permanent Commonwealth Secretariat, headed by the secretary-general, and biennial meetings of Commonwealth Heads of Government. The symbol of their free association is the Head of the Commonwealth, which is a ceremonial position currently held by Queen Elizabeth II. Elizabeth II is also monarch, separately and independently, of 16 Commonwealth members, which are known as the "Commonwealth realms".
The Commonwealth is a forum for a number of non-governmental organisations, collectively known as the Commonwealth Family, which are fostered through the intergovernmental Commonwealth Foundation. The Commonwealth Games, the Commonwealth's most visible activity, are a product of one of these organisations. These organisations strengthen the shared culture of the Commonwealth, which extends through common sports, literary heritage, and political and legal practices. Due to this, Commonwealth countries are not considered to be "foreign" to one another. Reflecting this, diplomatic missions between Commonwealth countries are designated as high commissions rather than embassies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_of_Nations

 

yeh service to the queen IS a special relationship.



you might want to listen to that again and get your facts straight


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G43zl4fzDQg"]Extreme Prejudice - CIA Whistle Blower Susan Lindauer 911Truth


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTbdnNgqfs8"]John Perkins - Confessions of an Economic Hit Man - Part I - YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAIdfhwZ4MU"]Obama-Confirms-Pledge-of-Allegiance-and-Service-to-Her-Majesty-the-Queen




OBAMA;"the great purpose and design of our lives may we remain now and always faithful servants"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio"]Obama Voter: "Vote for Obama because he gives a free Phone"

Good marketing gained the sentiments of the intellectual community who voted him back in despite constitutional prohibitions.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeJbOU4nmHQ"]Howard Stern Exposes Obama Supporters 2012 (Official) - YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P36x8rTb3jI"]Obama Is Going To Pay For My Gas And Mortgage!!! - YouTube


I know this is drifting a bit but I simply could not resist making the point of how broken this english legal system gets. (as was predicted it would be btw, surprised it took this long to be so slap in the face obvious)

 

and I will bet that you dont even realize that you just proved my point!

 

that doesnt make any sense to me either

neither has he shown anything what so ever that the king dissolved ALL interest in the US. It does not exist btw.

or for that matter france or spain or mexico. Louisiana still has napoleanic law despite the presumption the US is strictly "English (based) Common Law" country.

Virtually everything that was done was a function of "who had the biggest guns" and had nothing to do with law. Well until England (and now the US) declares conquered territory part of the realm and or interest and or franchised (hence the term free) by the right of "conquest".

Which in essense means if you declare war on your neighbor and shot them you now have an interest in the underlying property regardless of its policies or sovereignty. From there create a constitution which creates the enforcement rules of the police state that over time the courts will dissolve by conversion. ~~Weal~~

Not to forget creating democratic "free" (MOB) states to wipe out the last vestiges of individualism sacrificed to mob rule, so the plutocratic oligarchy can operate behind the scenes with impunity. (see the legislative [not the peoples] powers of taxation!). wow....just like england!

...and of course anarchy the purest and greatest form and expression of individualism which incidentally in no way abrogates law or the court system is advertised as the greatest evil because it does or would abrogate about 97% of the entrenched government police state.

have fun with that odon

 

"And so I’d like to propose a toast: To Her Majesty the Queen, on her Diamond Jubilee; to our dear friends, David and Samantha; and to the great purpose and design of our alliance. May we remain, now and always, its faithful servants. Cheers, everyone."

If you think Obama was pledging allegiance to the Queen - then, infact, the Queen owns or has ownership interests in 3/4 of the planet, and, yes, my post was a slam dunk/own goal - epic fail.

If the Queen owns or has ownership interests of over 3/4s of the planet - why does she hardly ever smile?

 

Why not? What's not delusional about: Implying he worked for the NSA. He and his ex employers could persuade the world bank to loan a country one billion dollars. Infrastructure improvements only help a few rich people. 'Perkins has alleged U.S. Government complicity in "the assassinations of President John F. Kennedy, Senator Robert F. Kennedy, Martin Luther King Jr., former Beatle John Lennon, and several unnamed U.S. senators who had died in plane crashes.'?

 

delusional? fine put up your dossier on the man, what you have here, like your opinions about 911, are completely unfounded.

 

I thought I said 1/3 of the planet, other aristocrats would get pissed if you short change them.

its? Yes, and I am telling ya you need to brush up on your law.

 

Dossier? I don't think so. I've 'put up' what I think. I can't really prove he wasn't recruited by the NSA - but the way he speaks is similar to Susan - not actually saying something but implying it. If you believe every word she says she's the only person who could have prevented the Iraq war

And your 'no plane' theory is well founded is it?

You did. If you think Obama was making a pledge of allegiance to the Queen - then I'm sure you could read into the 'common wealth realm' anything you wish. Including thinking the Queen 'owns' those countries' - even if she isn't anything more than a mascot. Also that she has some ownership over other places - such as Hong Kong. Maybe some ownership rights in Russia, too (Wilhelm II).

You missed that out of your quote.

'It' being the alliance between the UK and US.

 

It's funny how even after invading Iraq on the basis of what is now known to be willfully fabricated bullshit, people still wonder if what Perkins says can be true of the United States.

You don't really believe that things work the way you were taught to believe they worked in Civics Class, do you?

Interesting that you would accuse Perkins of "implying that he worked for the NSA" even though you admit to not being able to prove he didn't. That means that you were simply implying that Perkins was implying. I find that to be more than a bit ironic . . . and some other things. Shit! What was I implying there?

 

And I was thinking about the landing gear on the plane that struck WTC #1. It seems unlikely that the landing gear would have travelled all the way through the core-structure without being stopped. The plane, or whatever it is was, did hit the tower pretty squarely.

 

Who fabricated it?
I think Perkins spent a long time sucking money out of a country or countries, and now feels guilty about doing so.
He now seems to be apposed to any form of foreign intervention, and is on the side of indigenous people who are apposed to modernisation.
That's fine. I respect that.
To come out and say it was a determined effort to bankrupt/in-debt a country or countries - is a little odd.
The story he weaves is a little fanciful.

No. No, I don't. I don't believe they work as Perkins suggests, either.

If you can quote the part or have some evidence he did work for the NSA - and had just not been through an application process, perhaps. ..I will believe otherwise.
I don't think he actually states he did work for the NSA as a economic hit man.

There is a good possibility it wasn't the landing gear.