I was considering buying some 4 MeO PCP and was just wondering if anyone has tried this chemical before. I cant find much information. On it. Please share your experience. Do you recommend it?
I have explored it a few times, I wouldn't recommend it to a 15 year old but it's a decent chem. Oral doses ~ 80-100 mgs were floaty and not very intense but mildly enjoyable, I preferred IM injection which around that same dose gave me a very stimulating, physically euphoric disassociative experience, I didn't get much visuals with lights on but with lights off there is some pretty cool ineffable disassociative type visuals that play on the body high to give a sense of spinning in space type effects and altering body perception. I'd probably recommend 150 mgs and up if you are to take it orally and unfortunately it burns really bad when snorted so that ROA is kind of off the table. (Although Making a liquid solution for nasal administration wasn't too bad) I've mixed it with 2ci and 2cb as well and it was a good combo drug.
Would you describe your experience as being deep and meaningful or just a high. Do you think anything could be learner from the trip?
I would describe my experiences with 4-meo-pcp as mostly just a high. I used ketamine which is a similar type of drug for a couple years prior so most of the potential of the disassociative experience was explored by then. However I did have a fairly cathartic experience when I mixed 4-meo-pcp with 2cb and one other time on its own that comes to mind was pretty mindbending. I think 4-meo-pcp could produce a trip one could learn from particularly if you are not that experienced with many psychoactives but I think there are many other chems and plants that have better potential and would be more efficient in doing so. The primary roadblock for me really finding much value beyond an interesting high with 4-meo-pcp or similar nmda disassociatives, is that they significantly impair memory so anything that may have been learned doesn't usually stick. I also find with 4-meo-pcp that it mostly boosted ego to a borderline meglomanic state where exploring analytic and emotional processes doesn't really appeal to me much.
Have you tried any other legal research chemicals that are more introspective/analytical? I ask because the only substances you can get where I'm from are marijuana and pharmaceuticals. I'm a big fan of cannabis but the various pills ive tried don't give me what I'm looking for. Do you know of a.chem that is mind expanding but still good for a beginner in psychadelics?
4-aco-dmt is a very worthwhile chemical that produces a otherworldly analytical trip. I have been exploring 6apb lately which is a stimulating emotional analytical experiece. There are many other chems as well but those are a couple of the best imo, it kinda depends on what analytical material you want to explore.
I'm not sure yet. I think ill be trying salvia soon so I guess ill see what sort of things come out during my trip. Then I can deciae what aspects of my mind need further exploration.
I don't consider Salvia a 'beginner' trip at all, however it has a short duration so at least you won't be stuck in the trip for hours if you don't enjoy it. Also the trip for Salvia is quite unique, there is not really any research chemical quite like it to my knowledge but some will draw comparisons to disassociatives and trips like 5-meo-dmt. I wouldn't use your salvia trip(s) as a bar for comparison for other trips you want to explore. I do find the Salvia trip profound though and hopefully you can find it worthwhile.
Salvia is my choice because my friends feel safer about using it. They don't like the idea of using research chemicals because they haven't heard much about them. On the other hand salvia is popular around here. Research Chems are probably something id have to explore alone (at least u ntil I find more like minded people). Also I have to sneak out of the house to do this and sneak back in a couple hours later. The salvia trip will be gone by the time I get home
Why in the world would you want to do 4 meo pcp When you are just getting into Rc's? My guess would be since it contains the word pcp and you have always wanted to try PCP but just a guess... My suggestion would be to try out something simple like a nice dose of 2c-i or some methylone or even some mxe.
ive never had a chance to try 4-meo-pcp, but i have done Methoxetamine and 3-meo-pcp, both of which are in the same category of 4-meo-pcp. i really enjoyed both MXE and 3-meo-pcp and i would be open to trying the 4-meo-pcp is i can ever find it.
