Destiny is all excited

I read this & I thought complete bullshit, he really thinks his party is going somewhere, damn cult

Monday, 20 December 2004
Destiny Church puts Gov't on notice

Destiny Church leader Brian Tamaki is warning the Government it is on notice after a new political poll.



The Sunday Star Times/BRC poll shows the church's political wing registering one percent support for the first time.



Pastor Tamaki says that is phenomenal for a party which was only formed just over a year ago.



He says the Government should see it as a wake-up call.



Brian Tamaki says the result shows he is a threat and that there are people who believe today's social climate is not the one they want for their children.



He says the Christian community is a large vote-puller and will show the country what it wants.

 

what a fucktard from fuck town He can fucking go and fuck himself, the fucking loser fucknut.

 

If I ever met Brian Tamaki I'm gonna get down on one knee and propose to him.

 

hah, what a wicked idea,

 

i'd just flop my cock out and slap him in the face

p.s. all respectful christians would vote for Dunne who is actually a reasonable guy (even if he did oppose the civil union bill he is entitled to his opinions)

so i doubt tamaki would get more than his congregation in voters.

Alltaken

 

From the numerous email exchanges I've had with Dunne (and other members of his party) I'd call him anything but reasonable. Wolves in sheeps clothing, the lot of them.

Jus' sayin'...

 

A few of our really christian friends (to the point their daughter refused to be friends with my sister once she came out) had a big debate with my parents about who to support when considering religion. It was weird. They'd just had a huge discussion on morality and how to uphold it in our 'doomed' country...dad had an outburst on politics...they turned around and said they're still voting labour. They said, nearly word for word, that every christian in parliament who is loud and proud about this fact is a total tosser who doesn't have the wellbeing of NZ in mind. Really interesting.

But with Destiny church, I'm not sure that 1% support is anything to boast about when its clear 99% feel the exact opposite

 

lmao... 1% support?? Oooogly boogly I'm quaking in my queer little booties.

I don't know what I'd do if I met Brian Tamaki... I have a feeling I'd need to be held back.

Also, Walrus, I agree with you about the Dunne thing. We had an interesting email exchange that I posted here. He's essentially full of shit and funnily enough, his opinions contradict themselves (He's for equal rights for everyone but doesn't think that gay people deserve equal status in the eyes of the law... Hmmm... problem much?).

As soon as Dunne leaves/retires/is kicked out/gets abducted by aliens, then United Future is down the plughole cos he's the only person anyone actually knows from that party. It's like NZ First. No one knows anyone from there except Winston. Peter Dunne IS United Future. Without him, its nothing. The only reason they are where they are is cos of the Otario-Belmont seat which is totally Peter Dunne's and that damn worm. Thats why I'm trying to move into central wellington as soon as possible so my vote will go into supporting a labour candidate rather then someone who has no chance of winning against peter dunne.

 

Puntastic - Go Tamsyn, get enough against him and he's Dunne for.

*cringe*

*crawls back to the dark, dank hole he came from*

Yeah. I should probably be banned from the fora for that. Meh.

 

lmao that was great.

 

yes, matt, you are a punny guy

 

They are dangerously and powerfully infused into my soul. It's something I call English-Major Syndrome.

Or maybe it's the other way round. Maybe the world needs more puns. I'm going with that because it sounds more like I'm doing something cool, instead of... ...well... ...the fact that I have a weak sense of humour.

How're the hols? I'm so nervous about moving into that damned flat, just a few weeks left for me! Eeep.

Oh yeah, back on topic... ...soo... ...uuuuh... ...don't that Destiny crowd just suck.

*looks lame*

 

lol, no, puns are great (in moderation )


and yes...flatting will be sweet (i hope)

you'll be fine

 

tamsyn, are you even in the ohario belmont area?

i voted for dunne last time. becase he has not actually stuffed anything up in my area. we are having good growth and good times here so i kept with him because of stability.

dunne may be against homosexuality, however i don't think anyone should vote someone in on a single issue. i mean for some people that issue may be higher on the agenda than others and that is great.

however most people in my suburb don't wish to have the place turn to poo with some random MP. and peter has done things fairly well.

i may vote against him this time around because of certain things, but i know he will get in, and i don't really mind that.

he is a person who can handle comprimise. even if he doesn't agree with your POV he is hardly going to come and kill you.

you view him as a lesser human being than you, because you think he is a bigot, however he views you are a lesser human being coz he thinks you are not a good christian. whats the difference?

i think his POV is just as fair as yours. whether or not i agree with it. (i actually disagree with his POV on same sex partnerships, but still we live in a democracy so deal with it.)

peter dunne has done nothing to create a more angry, nor more unstable society, unlike tamaki. hence i have respect for dunne.

any politician who lives of conflict and fear i think less of, i.e. howard, bush, tamaki, winston, richard....

anyone who tries to unite even if people don't always agree with them i have respect for. gorgina, helen, dunne.....

i support the civil union bill, but the world is not all about the civil union bill. so dunne opposing it ain't really a big deal.

Doug

 

But Dunne's entire worldview is... ...somewhat ironically... ...damaging to family unity. He downgrades or declasses entire viable units - single mothers, single fathers, adoption, gay parents, cohabitation etc. as somehow "lesser" than his perverse "penis goes here *indicates a vagina*" mentality. Frankly I view him as a societal danger - yes, he is perfectly allowed to voice and hold his opinion, but I wouldn't dream of giving him more sway in this country than to be a little man with no seat in parliament.

I'm sorry, his entire party, while holding perfectly "valid" views, also hold the country back by canvasing their rubbish to the public. It is their right, and yes, I'm entirely bias towards my views - I fear for morality just like them - only I base every single moral decision on empathy, not dogma. Hence I'm a vegetarian, hence I pick litter up, hence I try to be as supportive and friendly as possible. Naive, and stupid. Yeah. But dammit, there is far more at stake than gay marriage when it comes to giving religious zealots a societal megaphone.

*rant over*

Ah well, that's life I guess. I maintain my position on Dunne, I never said he was a bad person, from all my correspondence with him he's very polite, eloquent, and full of lar-dee-dar bullshit that comes out like honey. A likeable enough guy. Just a tad warped.

 

walrus

you live your life through morals that you choose. being a vegitarian is a personal choice and one that is infact better for the environment and our future generations than eating meat.

however how many vegans and vegitarians have you seen trying to push their personal morals onto others? i have seen a large number that get very riled up and agressive about it all.

peter dunne is doing nothing more than trying to push his (or the churches) morals onto others.

but the only reason he gets my respect, is he does it withe respect (as you say from talking to him)

single mothers, single fathers, adopted kids.... are somthing that has existed forever. but i do kinda fear they are a phenomenon that has been exagerated by todays lax sexual society.

sex has no tabu, or moral stigma about it, and it has resulted in a F-load of kids that were not planned, respected, wanted, looked after. i don't think the solution is to make those family units outlawed or bad, but we do need a social change to make sex more special than just somthing you do with anyone anywhere you like.

i ain't religious BTW. but i think sex, violence, and alot of negative things in this world are being normalised.

Alltaken

 

[Well, personally I think that the entire point of vegetarianism is that I'm not forcing my will upon the animals any longer. Ethically, well, they kick, bite, and generally show a few good signs of desire for self-preservation. I really don't see it as a "choice" the way you suggest - at least I only see it as a choice the same way that I could choose to BBQ my cousins in tabasco sauce and chew on their flesh, or something. Still, I'm off topic.]

I agree about the oversexualisation, I mean, man, I'm gay. If anything it's worse for me, I have mingle with people who can't distinguish themselves from their sexuality at all half the time; others that are just, well, whores. Sensiblity and astuteness is rare among gay men. The normalisation of sex, violence, emotional distance, etc. is scary.
I can see how it could push someone like Dunne to act.

Still, neither the means nor the ends of his actions are positive. He becomes a well-intentioned menace.

 

hmmm i think its a bit of a tough one.

i am of the view that for a government to be balanced you need to have people on all sides of the spectrum to help create the avergae/norm.

without national, act, and all these right wing crazy Mofo's we would not have a voice pushing against racial apartide. without the greens we would not have a group pushing against wild commercialisation.

IMO the greens being in power would be just as dangerous as winston being in power. they are limited in their scope of influence. and are extreme in plans.

however i will always vote for the greens as they are balancing out the large and powerfull other side of the argument. the greens being in power mean the central parties must alter their policies to keep in line with the public opinions.

the extreme parties are a marker to the current issues. and serve as a good marker.

i don't think that these parties are negative at all (even if their policys are negative) as they are small parties without power.

thats why i don't view dunne as an evil bastard. why i don't view nandor as an evil bastard, why i don't view winston as an evil bastard (ok i do LOL, but thats coz he just won't die. and has no opinions of his own. hes a flip flopper)

the only people i don't like are the ones that are at the exact opposite of the pollitical spectrum. but then again i see why they are needed to have a balanced democracy.

and i can totally understand why you and tamsyn don't like dunne at all. he is against somthing that defines your person. just as i don't like brash, coz he wants nuclear power. but i do still respect the need for a brash like figure.



Alltaken

 

I agree, and I'll just add that I'm not trying to say we don't need balance, and a right wing. I'm saying that having people like Dunne in there pushes that balance a little too far. I'm all for satisfying the Right to some degree, we're all in this together after all *cheesy grin* (my family are redneck farmers who happily accepted the gay thing, but seemingly wanted to disown me for becoming a vegetarian - I know what a bizarre mix of opinions exist in the world).

 

lol thats rather funny.

Alltaken