Happy Birthday Jesus!

You do know that most scientists agree that he was born sometime inbetween spring and September, right?

 

There is no jesus.

 

actually there is a jesus, the only discussion should be whether he was the messiah or not..

and yeah im pretty sure its safe to say he wasnt born on our december 25th..

 

Are we sure its 'scientists' that research the birth of jesus??

 

Usually, when theres a reference to jesus, its to the so called son of god. Yes there are PLENTY of jesuses running around though, but they sound different.

 

the catholic church is who declared dec. 25 the date to celebrate jesus' b-day, and jesus wouldn't like it one bit, he didn't want it this way. the catholics did this to draw the pagens into the church for financial reasons. this stuff is very easy to study and to find info on. and for anyone who hasn't studied that much, please do. jesus told us that we are the sons of god and in genesis god says that we are all created in his image. i'll get off the soap box now, but there is no way i will ever tell my children that christmas has anything to do with jesus. it is based on st. nick who gave gifts out to children and the pagens celebrated the holiday that way and only brought jesus into with massive persuasion from the catholics.

 

oh, and it is theology that is the study of this type of religion, the people that study are not scientists they are theologists

 

The Catholics may have taken it upon themselves to steal holidays from the pagans (which is why I rarely call holidays by their, "names" or celebrate many of them), however, true believers did come to celebrate Jesus at his birth, and regardless or not what day we celebrate it on, we do celebrate it.

 

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Happy birthday toooooooooo yooooooooooooou,
Roly.xxx

 

Happy "birthday" jesus...happy birthday everyone [a little dickens ripp]

 

HOW WOULD YOU KNOW??!?!?!? Are you Jesus?

Sounds like you need to go back and do some more studying. It had nothing to do with financial reasons, and quite frankly, I don't see why Christ would care which day his birthday was celebrated on, a birthday is a birthday, and if it meant drawing more people into the faith, why would he be opposed to that?

Please do not teach your kids to be simpletons such as yourself.

 

The only thing I will say is nothing was *STOLEN* from the pagans. Pagans were drawn to Christianity on their own, and it was an ingenius way to Incorporate them into the Christian Church.

 

Easter for 1 is a pagan holiday. i dont remember the details, it was a while ago and i dont really care but i want to educate you. Easter was a stolen holiday, your not supposed to celebrate it as easter. but, for you to believe that 'the messiah' is like that, makes you a simpelton.

 

I don't celebrate easter. I celebrate ressurection day. The day Jesus rose. Some church's even teach the children of their congregation about the easter bunny, which is pretty pathetic.

 

Okay, we've all heard about how Christmas borrowed the date from the pagan solstice, esp. under the influence of Constantine at the 1st Council of Nicea in 325 (let's debate Constantine's "Christianity" in another thread).
While most of the people here in this forum seem to see this as a bad thing, I believe it testifies to one of Christianity's greatest strenghts, syncronism, which has been an integral part of the faith since the Gospel of John. No culture is without outside influences, especially in the pluralistic Roman Empire, and especially Christianity.
ALL THAT ASIDE, there is another plausible explaination for the date of December 25 (Gregorian) other than pagan influence. All Hebrew prophets, it was believed, died on the same day they were concieved in their mother's womb. Nine months after Easter doesn't just happen to be the date Christians celebrate the birth of Christ. If you look at the liturgical calendar for the death/conception date for John the Baptist, Mary, etc. they all conform to the same rule.
This doesn't necessarily mean that Jesus was actually born on Dec. 25, come on people. But since when did the early Church pay special attention to scientific and proof based historical fact?

 

Doesn't look like Jesus's to enthused about the big 20-05...

 

Damn he looks good for being 2005 years old

 

also looks a lil white..