Telling the truth about Santa

I wrote Santa while in Iraq and he arrived on the base in a C130.. But I think he was scheduled to come anyway..:mickey:

 

I had older sisters so I probably had a clue early on. The final though was the year that I asked Santa for a desk for my room and it came with a note from Santa...in my Dad's handwriting.

 

If I have a child ill never lie to them about Santa. I'll be a good parent and not lie to them from day 1. I have a cousin that's like 9 and still not told. I feel bad lying to them. The parents still made a mess and pretended Santa came, bah, it's pathetic.

 

I don't really see how it's bad parenting to get your kid to believe in Santa. I don't recall ever blaming my parents or being mad at them when I found out Santa didn't exist .

 

Nobody has suggested that believing in Santa is bad parenting. In fact, we all grew up believing in Santa and I'm going to make a grand gesture and say that we all turned out fine. It's just the whole idea about Santa that throws me off, personally. A fat man who watches you all year, but your actions only really count towards christmas, comes into your house when you're sleeping to give you shit for being 'good'? All whilst simultaneously celebrating the 'birthday' of jesus, which is also complete crock. The whole christmas thing, to me, is a waste of time. I think you tend to get a bit defensive on people's posts, meliai.

 

I just think that the lying and deceit parents play all for a generic reaction to children's excitement to be in very bad taste. And considering that the historical significance of it all is unlearned, unknown and untold, it just makes the act of lying even worse, especially for Christians who make a mockery of their own religion on the 25th.

If I was the Pope I'd be like - "No.. no you can't produce mass lying on Jesus' b'day. That's just not right."

 

it's not lying, it's called Make Believe...

 

like Mr Rogers.

 

It is not Jesus' birthday either. The church just made his birthday coincide around the Winter Solstice in order to make conversions from paganism to Christianity more enticing.

 

There's a difference between story telling and lying straight to someones face.

 

exactly
telling kids about santa clause is story telling
kids thrive on stories and make believe

 

I think you anti-Santa people take it too seriously. Its supposed to be fun!

I was just joining in the discussion...

 

I agree. I'm team santa.

 

Personally, I am anti-santa for the same reason I am anti-god. The lies just do not seem to stop. people think "as long as it's comforting, why should anyone care?" when they should care. People hate being lied to, yet they always believe the worst lies. They outgrow the santa myth, but they never seem to outgrow the jesus myth. They think the government is lying to them, yet they don't think twice about churches lying in regards to a higher being no one can prove exists.

 

Why should people care so much about other people's traditions? I have never heard of anyone who was permanently messed up because they believed in Santa Claus. This is not child abuse.

The best parents ever are always the ones who have no kids.

Anyway, this thread is about how a kid who believes should find out, not about bigots wanting everyone to be just like them. Try to stay on topic.

 

i think i was around 7 when i discovered the farce. i waited to "see" santa. saw my mom instead. i wasnt disappointed, i just demanded to start opening gifts early every year. i think you should let kids believe in santa for as long as they do, it was so fun believing in him... eventually they will figure things out own.

 

Are Irminsul and I the only ones that question if such fairy tales are good ideas?

Firstly, I don't think dishonesty is good. I don't like lying; I hate being lied to, and I feel like disinformation is a plague in our modern times.

Secondly, it's kind'f a retarded myth. I want smart kids. Not kids that can believe a fat dude can fit billions of presents in one bag and take that sack sliding down our chimney, despite the fact we don't have a chimney or fireplace.

Thirdly, "he knows when you're sleeping.." omni-prescence of any sort is not a good idea to this atheist. One should learn to be good intrinsically.

And Santa is a consumerist god. Even if you aren't very materialistic and you celebrate the holidays more with cheer than cash -- Santa is still rewarding morals with objects and that's not good.



That being said, my approach to Santa when I'm a parent will probably be that I will tell kids the stories -- and make sure to give them a nice range of stories; and I will treat it as a myth or possible legend, without ever overtly saying I believe in him or that he's not real -- and let my kids do what they want with the info.

 

No. There's nothing magical or fun about being lied to. It's fun for adults. You can get little kids to believe anything. Making kids think an obese guy broke into their house in the middle of the night and ate their cookies doesn't make Christmas more exciting. Christmas is so overblown anyhow. It's one day of presents and candy and then life goes on.