I was not sure where to put this thread.The links at the end of the transcript are worth a look. The Grass Roots magazine mentioned is the downunder equivalent of Mother Earth News. I sometimes write for Grass Roots magazine. http://www.abc.net.au/rn/talks/bbing/stories/s1227818.htm
Big Mac-munchers often use fake concern that "cows and pigs could become extinct" in debates with vegetarians. I tell them that the meat industry itself is already accomplishing the job with its relentless pursuit of the perfect meat machine.