Jesus reminds me of an abusive boyfriend

Why?

His message is simple, love and obey me or I will hurt you. But I am only hurting you because you did not listen to me, I really do love you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udul9BeZkJ8"]Jesus is a Scumbag - YouTube

 

you know they invented other spiritual leaders, I seen ET in 1981.. shit changed my life man..

 

That guy's voice is really aggravating.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHH0kPGofo4"]"The Best of Tony Joe White" - BWP - YouTube

 

That's what associations do for you Messages can be interpreted very differently that way.

 

Surrounded by Your glory, what will my heart feel
Will I dance for you Jesus or in awe of you be still
Will I stand in your presence or to my knees will I fall
Will I sing hallelujah, will I be able to speak at all
I can only imagine..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfMYAQ04y4E

 

Why did I click that?

I heard that at the funeral of my niece's husband, done by their church band. If I'd seen this Veggie Tales video, I'd might have laughed during the song at the funeral.

Orison, you are a bad influence on me! Hold out your hand...

 

Takes one to know one. Seriously, are you inspired by this Scumbag--not Jesus but the guy with the annoying voice. Maybe he could make a similar video about Mohammed and see what happens.

I don't know whether we're supposed to take this seriously or not, but some people might. So I will. You got the message wrong, asshole. It's love and obey me and you and the rest of the world might save yourselves from yourselves. The choice is simple. This dude's gods are sex, power and money. Those values are worshiped by lots of people in our society, but without higher, more transcedent values to keep them in check, they don't lead to meaning or happiness. Hell is a bad attitude that leads to misery, and it results from the ideas spouted by our You Tube sage who doesn't know shit from shinola but thinks he does. He'll spread misery wherever he goes, and blame Jesus for it. And of course we can't rely on any bronze age books to help us out. Those ancient guys like Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle, the Buddha--what could they know? Give us something modern like the Playboy philosophy!

 

This just shows you have a very superficial knoweldge on this.

 

as far as i know, Jesus never hurt anyone. He offered love and healing when he walked the earth. what's so hateful about that?

 

There are many places in the bible where Jesus says to turn away from everyone but him. This is also what an abuser does. They tell you they are the only ones who love you, they don't like you having contact with others because they want to be the only one with influence on you. They know other people in your life will see them for they are.

For being so powerful God/Jesus really are insecure. This is also a trait of an abuser, they can not stand the idea that you would not worship them.

Do you know what Jews call Jesus? In Israel at least where they are safe. They say he was a liar, a manipulator, Jews understand what he was, a man. There is evidence that he had siblings but of course that does not fit with his "son of god" image, so he never talked about them. He was just a clever man who knew how to manipulate people.

You need to believe in him because if you don't that means a Christian afterlife is not waiting for you, and that's a scary thought for you so I understand why people are inclined to follow this.

But by doing this you are paying tribute to someone no different then any cult leader today. Christianity is a cult of Judaism in the way Mormons are a cult of Christianity. You have one clever guy who says well all the old text is true, but guess what I talk to god and he said I am in charge of this new stuff too, so worship me.

 

To cite Jewish opinions of Christians is like citing Christian opinions of Muslims. Of course they think (and always thought) of Christianity as a cult. But what was the Temple with its animal sacrifices and monopoly over worship if not a cult--and one grown tired and cynical before Jesus came along? Jesus didn't use the term "Son of God" as a designation for Himself. He preferred the term "Son of Man." "Son of God" in Judaism of the time simply meant "righteous person" and was applied to other people regarded as worthy of it. Jesus gave us a way to tell the cults from the real McCoy. By their fruits will you know them. The fruits of Christianity have been a mixed bag, but some seem worth consuming. By the way, the thought of not having a Christian afterlife isn't so scary to me. I don't expect to be going anywhere after death except six feet under to become worm food.

 

I believe a man named Jesus did exist, but I doubt he was the divine son of god. It is true that anyone can present a message, even claim divine knowledge, and there will always be people in the world who believe it. It is generally in one's nature to seek answers regarding the unknown, and it is usually in one's interest to believe that something bigger than him exists as an omnipotent creator. Despite the fact that there is no evidence to support mythology, people still tenuously cling to it merely for comfort's sake.

 

In my Father’s house there are many mansions. If not, I would have told you: because I go to prepare a place for you.

 

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I happen to agree with you on the essentials. My only disagreement is neglecting the importance of the content of the message. That's what attracts me to Christianity: the emphasis on peace, understanding, and love even for society's rejects. Other major world religions are compassionate, too, but Jesus put special emphasis on ministering to the outcasts. The interesting thing about Christianity, is that it grew into the world's largest religion. At least in a Darwinian sense, that's success! But I think the message got lost in the hype. I doubt that Jesus would be let into many churches that use His name--unless he cut his hair, took a bath, and toned down the radical rhetoric!

 

eh religion really isn't my cup of tea. i suppose at face value, his words seem that way. except, the concept of jesus is that he is a kind, forgiving ruler-to-be.
right?

 

There are different concepts all tainted by subjective perceptions. How the OP views it is not really how it looks like at face value (perhaps if you hear the info second-handed it does) otherwise it would be a more well known concept I guess. That he is a kind, forgiving ruler to be is closer to the most popular christian concept although I think it is better described as the son of God (as in part of the holy trinity ((which is not shared by every christian group, yeah buggers, it is not so simple as we would like it to be)) who died for our sins. I agree this does make him a kind and forgiving person

 

I always had a problem with the concept of God sacrificing himself for the absolvement of mankind's sin when, and since He is so omnipotent, he could have merely spoken a single word to perform the act of ultimate kindness rather than put on a bloody display like a crazed theatrics major.