HELP shrooms / acid

Humbly admit I haven't read the whole thread, thus just exploring the first print of ideal. Seek a real true shaman. The shaman amongst us walk with a foot in two worlds and when you speak of such powerful allies, you really should seek their experience and most of al their grounding and their ability to reconcile between perception and the true nature of 'reality'. It is absolutely possible to have an 'experience' with these allies that is 'trippy' and somewhat enhancing to a degree. But, big f'in but, you do yourself a disservice if you choose to walk in that long hall of mirrors and shadows before you discover the truth. The ally will take you down the path you choose, this could be years, a lifetime even before you decide to accept what's being taught. You may not even get it in this life if you forego the advice of the experienced(old souls and spirits born). This may sound like a whole lot of mumbo jumbo but keep in mind that the experience has existed for several thousand years. Want some ideas of what to do? I may give you some but they will probably fall far from what you think reality is. Take the real path, become your true spirit. Love.

 

If you try acid, and its good acid, sometimes the visuals can just be too much. Just turning out the lights freaked me out. I would reccomend being somewhere that you felt safe, nature, your bedroom, a friends house, wherever. Just be careful not to do anything that can potentially cause you to trip bad. Other than that, have fun. Explore. Embrace.

 

thanks

 

Dude seriouslly wait. Its exciting and tempting to do it now but you'll get fried out your mind that young. There were some kids in my class who dropped acid right in the middle of it. They just got fucked in the head like you would not believe. I waited till last year and I'm glad beyond reason that I did. The difference between drugs and hallucegenics: Hallucegenics are much more powerful and usually more permanent. Just wait. If you really want a pychedelic experience, look into ethnobotanicals.

Oh! MaryJane! I'm in town! Come hang with me!

 

fine. don't anyone answer my question.

 

Don't look in the toaster for treasure. ^-^

 

Whatcha mean in your system?

If you mean how long the trip lasts, shrooms 4-6 hours, acid 7-13 hours... although I've trpped for nearly 18 hours before *shudders*

If you mean for drug testing purposes, neither are tested for in standard or extended drug tests, but it is possible to test for if they were specifically looking for it. Half life is about 2 days... so three days detection at most.

 

hey if i were you i'd definately start with shrooms, acid is way stronger, i first did shrooms when i was 15 and i've not had any "problems" i had one seriously bad trip, but that was because i was in the wrong mind set, just make sure the setting and your mind is posative and your not going to be distrubed and you feel safe, put on some good music and get ready for a fantastic ride, it really can be a mind expanding experience. peace.

 

I've decided to try weed. Just once to see what it's like.... Dunno where I'm gonna find some, but oh well....

 

REALITY CHECK:
It is patently illegal to aid/assist and promote illegal drug use, particularly by a minor, under the "Rave Act" and "Patriot Act". Acid is powerful juju, strong mojo and a spiritual upaya (method), so casually promoting the idea to a 14 year old is inherently irresponsible.

I first droped when I was 13, but that was in the 70's and I had elders around who would steer me in the right direction, and tell me that setting and environment, mood and surroundings were very important. But if you are 14, slow down man. You have your whole life, cram as much nutrition and knowledge as you can get into your brain before you start putting substances in it. And natural substances are always better than chemical ones, better karma.

Don't think the DEA would not go after a site like this if there is rampant promotion of teen drug use. I have been a drug policy activist for 20 years, and I have seen some major shit go down. Be careful, use common sense, and don't let your percieved anonymity fool you, the internet is inherently traceable and vulnerable to infiltration. Drug agents who work websites and chatrooms pose questions like this all the time. This may be a genuine one, but watch out, and think twice. And if you DO give advice, make sure you know WTF you are talking about, someone who matters is on the other end and could get hurt because they trusted your words.

That said, psychedelics are very helpful to mature, well balanced and emotionally stable minds, in moderation. But kids should wait. Period.
Peace, Viv-

 

There is a young man hanging around these parts that's roughly the same age as the person who started this q/a thread. He looks almost just like me but he's shorter He's asked me about that there trippy stuff too and I gave him roughly the same diatribe. Only, want some ideas of what to do? Has been followed by try being a vegan, yoga, meditate, climb a mountain, let's sit out in this field and play these didgeridoos, pick up a guitar, ..... all kinds of things that can show a person different perspectives on reality that don't involve using a substance.

 

I was 14 when I first ate lsd. it was an amazing experience for me, and it will be for you too, when you decide it is right. don't let anyone tell you to take it or not. you know best. I personally think that psychedelics are some of the most healthy, mind/soul revealing substances on the planet. That said, it absolutely cannot hurt to put it off for a while till you have more perspective and more up there to bounce around. Most of the people who really made a difference by taking the stuff in the sixties where college educated and in their mid-twenties and beyond (ie. Kesey, Leary, Hoffman, etc.).
Ok check this out, if you must dabble, try eating mushrooms first. Same, if not more spiritual insight, visions, etc. without the length and as much confusion as lsd.

 

14 is way young for lsd or shrooms. I was locked in my room reading books at that age,

 

Acid stays in your system for life. However, its not like pot that can be traced in urine samples. The only way to detect acid in someone is by taking a spinal tap. Im not so sure about mushrooms but Im pretty sure that its not like acid- probably more like pot.

 

if you're absolutley going to do it at all.. get it from a reliable source that you trust.. do it when you're in a positive mood / environment, as it can strongly influence the setting of the high.. and do it with people you trust, someone who is sober.. i don't recommend acid, i never tried it myself and will probably will never (now days it's all chemicals, and people lace it with anything at all.) I tried shrooms, the trips are pretty cool, sometimes even spiritual and pyscadelic hillucinations sometimes and it's natural, but still have to be cautious.. and you get horrible cramps when the high starts to wear off.. pretty much it's cool.. stick to the natural stuff.. the chocolate is great too..

 

Thats a myth. The whole "Crack you back flashback" thing is a mind thing. 99% sure on this. Ellis would be a better to ask but yeah, pretty sure its just a myth. Shrooms are long gone fairly quickly

 

Check this out, Timothy Leary, the renowned psychedelic researcher from Harvard, was taking psycedelics with his son when he was 8 years old. My point is, while 14 is very young and you should wait, let's not make hard and fast rules here. In my opinion, 18 is still too early to make the mental connections and to soar the way you can when older. Still, I have never ever had a bad trip with mushrooms, even when it was bad! Their purity is rarely tampered with, and their chemical structure is so closely related to serotonin, that it seems to be a match for the brain, made in heaven. Still if it were me, I would wait until I was in my mid-twenties.

 

ok I have a few things to say. Unfortunately this will probably be read after the weekend you were talking about tripping but oh well.

first of all, I have to say that everyone's trip is different, everyone's personality is different and everyone's tolerance is different. I took shrooms and acid (not at the same time) when I was 14 and I had a whole bunch of terrible crap going on in my life, and tripping was really exactly what I needed, but then again, that's just me.

definately try tripping for your first time with someone who has tripped before, and make sure that whatever you are injesting, is good. Ask somebody who has taken what you are about to take about the effects it had on them or make the person who is selling it to you, sit there. Never be a guinea pig for psychedelics (I have and the outcome wasn't bad, it's just a stupid thing to do).

Next, research both shrooms, and acid thoroughly on erowid.com. Let me tell you now that acid does NOT stay in your system forever, and neither shrooms nor acid can kill you. The most that can happen with shrooms, is that you would throw up from being too full before you eat so many you poison yourself. Acid is tricky. While shrooms are safer for your body than pot, even caffine, LSD is still a chemical that can have harmful effects to your brain. There has never been a death associated with purely too much acid. The people that die are ones who go crazy and either get in some accident (trying to fly, jumping at cars, ect.) or simply kill themselves. That is a very real possiblity with large amounts of acid and no one to "sit" you. Make sure that you have someone near you that really does have experiance with psychedelics. Too much acid really can make you go crazy permanantly. you kind of trip forever basically- which would really suck! Someone said they tripped for 18 hours before. pfff- I've gone 27 hours and by the time THAT was over, I was SO tired, and SO hungry, and so messed up that I didn't want to trip for a while. Make sure you know how much you're taking basically!!! And don't take it on a Sunday. If you have school the next day, even if you trip during the day, even if you stop tripping before you go to bed, both acid and shrooms have effects on your sleep- you can't get any!!! Try to do it on a day where you will have a free day afterward to rest and slip back into reality.

study, plan, and decide for yourself. Fuck the people that berate you for trying to "act like a hippie".Expanding your mind has nothing to do with being a hippie. Those people are just stereotyping everyone. If you want to expand your mind, and experience what your brain can do, by all means do it, and just do it safely. You are in control of your mind and body at all times and all you have to do to keep from freaking out, is remember that. Tripping can be a wonderful thing and I beleive if you prepare your mind for it, and you desire to open your thoughts, go for it.

Shrroms can be just as effective, depending on the strain, how much you eat, ect. usually an eighth or less will do the trick. I remember I ate shrooms once that gave me a better trip than some kinds of acid! Don't let anyone tell you that they are like pot cuz they're not! Acid and shrooms differ in some ways, but I'll let you find that out when you look it up!

 

bleh, acid is dangerous for little kids.

i say that as a fifteen-year-old with no experience in that area, but i've seen people do some stupid shit on acid.

 

i was 14 when i first tried acid, and 13 when i tried shrooms. i thought i was emotionally ready for both of them. i was right. the first time i took both of them i had the best trips of my life. i was with a few wonderful friends, we were on a beach at night. it was one of the most amazing experiences of my life. just make sure you think you can handle it.