What Would you do with a Gallon of LSD

lot of ting

plein de bonnes choses

 

LOL,
Ya beat me to it.

 

Yup, and that's a big part of why there were so many "freak-outs" and trips to emergency rooms early on in the illicit LSD history.
Then people started to scale back strength of individual doses and for about the last 25 years 100ugs has become the standard dose. It is also the dosage distributed and recommended by Sandoz back when they supplied it for clinical research.

They recommended starting with 25ugs (the little pills) and increasing dosage until an effective, comfortable therapeutic dose was achieved for the patient. The most efficacious dosage range was between 100ugs-300ugs for most patients.


Freak-outs or bad trips were almost non-existent in proper clinical usage, but have some 15 year old drop 350ugs with no real preparation or support and viola', LSD instantly becomes some evil, insidious drug that will rape your soul and ravage your mind.

Sad considering that LSD is just about one of the safest, non-lethal substances that humans consume. That cup of coffee with cream and sugar is doing more physiological harm to your body then taking 100 LSD trips ever would.
Then add the fact that out of clinical literature around the rate of people that had bad trips in proper settings that left a lasting negative impact on the person is about 0.01%.
There has also never been any overdose death's from the ingestion of LSD.

So I'm curious how many of the respondents to this thread who say "destroy it" actually know anything at all about it?

Hell, I'd rather destroy all the brewery's and distilleries before destroying LSD.

LSD has potential to improve and educate a person's life.
Alcohol doesn't have any redeeming qualities.

Oh, wait, you can use alcohol to disinfect things because it's very good at killing things, people included.

 

I've been using forums for over a decade to learn about drugs and talk to other users, I doubt hip is going to show me anything remotely new in the way of elitist drug users or elitist non-drug users. That was a pretty douchey thing to say in itself. And as someone else already said, the people you are talking about were undoubtedly douches long before using lsd.

But if you don't want to try it because you fear it or because it simply doesn't interest you then alrighty. When you had the tiny desire to try it, what is it you wanted out of it?

 

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In the 40+ years I lived in SF and watched the 'acid test' from inside and/or next door the only major freakouts I encountered even during the time I worked 'drug rescue' @ Switchboard and the common dose was 350ugs were of two types, those rare folks whose body chemistry did not produce the natural agents that bring you down and the much more common fool who mixed their highs with speed, alcohol, etc. The SFPD used to bring folks having rough trips and drop 'em off at Switchboard bc if they took em to the hospital it was a manditory 3day hold where as if we did they were released when they came down enough. In most cases we offered them a cot & a hit of nyquil and they slept it off.

 

I never said I'm not a douche. I just don't try to make myself sound like I'm so much more in tune with the world than someone who hasn't had the same experiences as me. The majority of the acid-fans I have come across on this particular forum are elitist douchebags and I just started saying shit because like I said, I wanted to bust some balls. This is really a non-issue as I already stated, I have real reasons as to why I don't want to try it.

The only reason I ever wanted to try it is the same reason I wanted to try just about everything else I have. Because I wanted to. If I came across it from a reliable source, then I might get the itch to try it. It's not an absolute no like crack, heroin, meth, and ecstasy are.

 

I see. Fair enough. Hopefully I don't run into any of them myself. I definitely don't see myself as some hyper-enlightened being. I think the only drug that could ever give me that feeling would probably be DMT. I don't touch ecstasy pills but I do enjoy pure MDMA.

Thanks for explaining more.

 

I'd either pour it into my parents attic water tank or hand it to the police - I'm not sure : /

 

Both options are a huge waste!

I can only imagine the unnecessary hysteria that would bloom if the police had that much lsd in their possession.

 

I knew 3 folk who ate at least a gram of pure crystal Vitamin L. In each case they seemed to reach a certain level of high and then stay there for a peroid of time determined by how much they ate. One guitar player I watched eat far more than a crystal gram with the impulsiveness of your average sagittarius. However I've never seen it used as a douche.....it might be.....:devil:...but of course that would be very, very risky....

 

A gram? That's 10,000 doses. I think you may be exaggerating a bit...

 

Id eat that pussy after its been douched with a gallon of lsd..

 

I wouldn't actually do the first one. The police would just neutralise it with chlorine.

 

I would flush it down the toilet.

 

a lot of toilet flushers in here. if you guys are in florida, some sewer gators are going to be tripping balls.

i would be tempted to toss a goldfish in there and just see what happens (probably a quick death, but in my experience that's what happens to goldfish even when you take care of them anyway).

 

Keeping in mind this was at least 40 years ago sag wet his index finger and ran his finger through a baggie containing a couple of ozs of L (2" deep & 1+"s thick) throughly coating his finger and then running it back into his mouth licking it clean as my pal who had asked if he wanted a taste and myself sat there in shock and surprise. His only reply when asked what's up was to point that finger at his open mouth and say something like ahhh. If we put food in front of him he ate and if the band had a gig at Magnolia's we'd put a guitar in his hands and he played just fine. This state lasted a couple of weeks.

 

As I understand it, thumbprint level and up simply saturates your brain, and as it's metabolized/excreted quickly, you won't get any more.

But those kinds of trips do perminantly change people. Quite strongly.

 

Might find out how much so here soon. He posted here as a guest today, the first i've heard from him in at least thirty years. We'll see....

 

Id turn on as many people as I could. People who would appreciate the enlightenment. Id turn on people who are artistic and creative. Dose people at Further shows, music festivals and gatherings. Give the old hippy's sheets to take back home to share with friends. Give some sheets to art students at universities, with the stipulation they dont sell it and be very careful. Id feel like Owsley. It would be fun printing the blotter paper. Id try to print album covers like the hits we got at MSG shows.

 

A baggie? A couple of ounces? A couple of weeks?

A baggie has to be about the worst thing to store crystal LSD in. I'm thinking a serious chemist/dealer would be using amber glass vials.

A couple of ounces is a holy-shit-ton of crystal and from all I've ever read about a tenth of a gram is considered a big "thumbprint" dose.

In this account of eight people who overdosed on LSD, as well as a few other accounts, they all recovered completely and were released within 12 hours, but some may have died without medical intervention.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1129381/pdf/westjmed00307-0025.pdf

My point is we always hear these stories about people taking massive doses and being high for weeks with no problems, such as you are relating here, but unfortunately the medically verified documentation says he would most likely have died from that dose without medical help and it would not have lasted weeks.

Whenever a fraction of a milligram is more than enough to get the job done doing huge doses is lame and irresponsible. Especially when, as Roor pointed out, LSD has a saturation ceiling and taking more does literally nothing extra. Some have postulated that ceiling to be as high as a few milligrams, but Timothy Leary considered it to be around 300ugs. He said any more was a waste and yielded no greater/longer results, at least for him personally.

So I always take these "thumbprint" stories with a grain of salt because the science doesn't support the story.

I'm not calling you a liar, I'm just thinking maybe the years and collective urban myth may have influenced your story a bit.