Alright, so Im a beginner psychonaut, wanting to explore the inner reaches of himself.. I have a foothold on psychedellics (LSD, DOI and Psilosibin) and I think its time to give dossociatives a shot. Iv done nitrous once, and DXM twice.. the latter of the two dex trips resulted in extreme nausia and quite a bad tripuke:.. I want to redeem myself! So, if there are any K-heads, Sally smokers, or Robotrippers out there who want to share their wisedom and experience, it would be much appreciated!:2thumbsup:.
When you take DXM intending to trip, pretend you're not tripping until it hits you so hard you can't help but go along with it. Atleast that is what I've learned from it.
Salvia deserves to be disassociated from the disassociatives, it's a very atypical trip that pretty much defies many of the similarities amongst the standard disassociatives. If you want to learn about Salvia Divinorum, I'd recommend checking out the Salvia Divinorum forum. http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/forumdisplay.php?f=124 I have had a few robotrips and ton of experiences with Ketamine. I prefer ketamine by a lot, it feels more like a legitimate anasthetic (although I've only dosed DXM at 300 mgs). But ketamine is easier to dose, It can kind of promote these wild ideas and dreamy mindscapes like you have access to all this abstract information, ideas, hallucinations that don't necessarily make a ton of sense but somehow you feel awakened to these percetions and ketamine often promotes these delusions of grandeur and you can feel as if you got it all figured out and then a moment later you can feel really intoxicated and messed up. Ketamine can provide euphoria but I think it's better at not creating anxiety or fear, it's got an element of for lack of a better word apathy that reminds me of descriptions and my few experiences with potent opiates. As where if took LSD, Psilocybin, or DMT and experienced these perceptions there would be a fair chance that you may experience a sense of trepidation or feeling overwhelmed but with Ketamine you can just sort of not care and often times play with the intense perceptions. Ketamine's duration is about <2 hours though so depending on your take, that could be a good thing or a drawback about it. Compared to the glimpse of the DXM peaks I've got, I'd say Ketamine is a more relaxing experience, less frying and DXM can be euphoric but kind of has a wonky body high where Ketamine feels pretty smooth. I find Ketamine pretty addictive though and inject it Intramuscularly, it's difficult for me to source now which perhaps may be for the best but be careful with it. I view disassociatives (sans Salvia) as swimming with floaties on in the Psychedelic Pool. Meaning you can go both to the shallow and deep ends easier but you're not really 'letting go' in the pure way that you can with psychedelics.
Thats a really interesting analogy guerilla.. I felt that similar detatched feeling, especially with my first DXM trip. not to say I didnt feel strong emotions, they just didnt take over my imagination and send me to the dark reaches of space :alien: (like tryptamines tend to do:dizzy2.. Ketamine sounds fantastic, Id love to try it some day, its just pretty hard to find where I come from. DXM is the only dissociative il probably be able to come by. And your probably right about salvia, never tried it myself. But from what Iv heard its pretty unique. I just brought it up because anyone whos tripped salvinorin before is in my eyes an athorityon bizzare dissociative (for lack of a better word) experiences.
