Non-coed schools

Discussion in 'Higher Ed' started by Bonky, Dec 22, 2004.

  1. Bonky

    Bonky Member

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    What do you think? I know you can get a good education , but you can get it on coed colleges as well. But how do you think it would be to go there? I don't know...
     
  2. lawngirl

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    i don't think it's for me, but it might work for others.

    i see no reason for girls or guys to be completely eliminated from the picture. gender-segregated schools aren't like catholic schools, for example, where there would be a large emphasis on a particular subject (like the catholics would focus on the bible, i guess... but i'm under the impression that a gender-segregated school won't have classes on how to be more feminine or anything).

    i've heard the argument that some teachers tend to focus more on guys. guys are generally called on before, and more frequently than, the girls. but statistics like those are always muddled... couldn't you say that white students are called on more than phillipino students, or younger students are called on more frequently than older ones? or the stereotype that asians are favored by their math teachers, and teachers are thus more inclined to give them better grades? if you're going to eliminate the other gender, you might as well cut yourself off from interacting with other cultures, races, ages, etc. if you only run your ideas by women, you might be in for quite a shock once a man hears your opinion. maybe not, but if you limit your audience, you limit the feedback you'll recieve.

    one of my professors said that some of his female friends attended an all-women's college and seem to be very confidant. then again, if you're not intimidated by males to begin with, then this won't be an issue. for example, all males do not and will not inhibit your ability to speak freely... just like all women do not, and will not, support what you say or allow you to speak freely. i see it as more of an individual difference. if you want confidance in your knowledge, go to a school thats geared towards your ideas, not your gender. if you want to paint, go to an art school. if you want to work with computers, go to mit. politics your thing? go to school in dc. like philosophy? find a more liberal/conservative school to fit your ideas. if you want to learn another language, study abroad... you get the picture. it will be far more beneficial than eliminating the other gender.

    i guess gender-segregated schools would be best if:
    - you prefer to have friends of your own gender
    - you are intimidated by guys
    - guys distract you too much
    - you feel inferior to guys, or feel like they inhibit your ability to speak freely.
    - you have negative stereotypes of guys
    - and i'm sure there are a lot of other reasons that i've left out

    i also think segregating people by gender perpetuates gender stereotypes. we tend to see those of our same gender as being open to a broader range of characteristics and individual differences, whereas we tend to see the other gender as being more limited. if we spend the majority of our time around our own gender, we get to see a lot more individual differences... and at the same time, we are also limiting the ways in which we see the other group, and we tend to apply more harshly negative stereotypes against them. if we're all in the mix together, we can see individual differences as being much more varied and not gender-specific.

    i have never attended a gender-segregated school, so my opinions aren't based on experience. most of my friends are male, so i might be biased in the other direction. i just finished a class where i was one of three females and not only was it my favorite class this past semester, but i got the higest grade in the class :D i'm not trying to brag, i just think it's a good example, or an interesting relation. had it been all-female, i don't know how, or if, the situation might have been different.

    sorry, this ended up much longer than i thought. i hope i didn't make your retinas burn with all the reading, haha. but anyway, i hope that helped some. which school were you thinking of attending?
     
  3. ThrftShopSweater

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    it has its ups and downs... i go to a massive school with 4 thousand kids and i enjoy having both guys and girls.. i couldnt imagine only being with girls.. it would be a nightmare
    but i can imagine how being sorrounded buy your gender would build self identity, and people wouldnt get caught up in that baby mama drama and all...
     
  4. Bonky

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    Geeezzz! Thanks guys, especially Lawngirl(i like your sexual preerence in your profile, btw :), and you're not so far...) Anyway, the thing is I'm in the States for this school year and I'm applying to some colleges. Main factor is financial aid, unfortunatly. I need a lot of money and I'm mostly applying to more prestigous colleges. Since Eng is not my native language my ACT is 24, while the average in those colleges is 28-30. I'm also applying to Smith College(girls) and they are not as sellective as my other choices so I might get in and get money as well. I've heard that it is a really great college and everything but I'm not sure if I'm ready for that. I mean, I don't want to isolate myself from guys. It's kinda... unnatural?I don't know... I do prefer girls as lovers but that's at this period so looking from that side I'm not sure as well. And I also always had more male friends..
    But on the other side I don't wanna turn down that chance of geting a great education. What if the offer me the best conditions and it's either them or Croatian college(back home)? Uf...

    Shit...

    P.s. I'm in Nebraska, if you ever come down ;-)

    Marry Christmas!
     
  5. Duncan

    Duncan Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    When I was growing up, non-coed schools were referred to as segregated
    "restricted to members of one group or one race by a policy of segregation <segregated schools>". How's that for a blast from the past ?
     
  6. Bonky

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    yeah, sucks...
    how's in college duncan?
     
  7. dawn_sky

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    Well, I've never gone to or had any interest in going to an all-girl school. Personally, I agree with lawngirl's view of non-coed schools, even to the point where I am a woman yet speak more in class & get better grades than most males. I tend to think that these women who hide away in all-female schools are doing themselves a disservice, as they will have to learn to show their strengths around men & work with men sooner or later -- I'd rather go thru that awkward phase in college than in the workplace.

    However, if Smith College offers you the best package, especially if no one else offers enough money for you to be able to attend, then I think it would be silly to pass it up.

    What kind of setting is this school in? I mean, is it off alone in the middle of nowhere, in a small college town, or in a city? I currently live in a small college town (population around 100,000). I go to the large coed state university here, but right nearby is a small all-female private college -- whatever they lack in interaction with males in the classroom, they can make up for on evenings & weekends, just by going out downtown or joining clubs. So, if this school gives you the best offer, keep the big picture in mind, don't just turn it down for fear of being isolated from the opposite sex!
     
  8. Bonky

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    thanks dawn sky, a lot...
    I've been thinking bout it a lot and... I still don't know... I would probably accept it if that happens but it's not 100%.
    thanks...
    happy new year!
     

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