Pre-revolutionary America?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Balbus, Feb 1, 2013.

  1. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    The other day while reading some history it occurred to me that the US seems to be inching toward what France was like prior to the revolution.

    In France at that time nobles and institutions like the Church had great influence and power and a say in the running of the state while having little investment in it since they were mostly exempt from taxation. The tax burden was heaped on the middle and lower classes and any short fall paid for by debt (while running expensive foreign wars like helping out in the American war of Independence)

    You only need to change nobles for billionaires, the Church for Corporations paying less and less taxes and you get a very similar model, with the middle and lower classes being squeezed, a debt problem and large scale military spending.

    Reforms to try and get nobles and Church to pay more in tax were blocked by the nobles and Church, just as any move to get wealth to pay more in the US is opposed and wealth sponsored politicians, lobbyists and think tanks pump out propaganda to try and get wealth taxes even more reduced.
     
  2. rjhangover

    rjhangover Senior Member

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    And just like the nobles, the rich of today think they are protected from the guillotine.
     
  3. Sig

    Sig Senior Member

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    In theory every country in the world is in a pre-revolutionary state.

    I don't see a revolution here in the US on the horizon. I think a break-up is far more likely than a revolution.
     
  4. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    But don't talk about how the UK is a total nanny state/police state.
     
  5. odonII

    odonII O

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    Care to give some e.g's?
     
  6. RooRshack

    RooRshack On Sabbatical

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    Cameras on everything that will stand still long enough to mount one?
     
  7. odonII

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  8. McFuddy

    McFuddy Visitor

    When I lived in England I hardly saw any cameras.
     
  9. odonII

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    Given the lack of response from both Pressed_Rat and RooRshack we should be able to conclude neither has any persuasive evidence, and we could almost suggest they have no idea what they are talking about.
     
  10. SunDweller1989

    SunDweller1989 Member

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    The revolution begins when they want the next phase to begin. Our generation is unable to take their political gripes beyond the keyboard.
     
  11. odonII

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    You have to convince the world and more importantly other citizens that you have more than first world issues.
     
  12. SunDweller1989

    SunDweller1989 Member

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    Unfortunately revolution is being applied to a generation that gets crazy after a week of no power, showers, running water, etc. We're used to 5 minute meals, instant streams. The only guns we hear are on TV, video games, and they're as loud as popcorn popping. Our education has been the remnants of pocketed money. The only real thought they give us is math. Numbers. Numbers count but where is the logic, history, the arts? It's mostly listen, repeat when told. When our generation demands change it's internet petitions and protesters that get infiltrated by the very people we protest against.

    Pre-revolutionary yes. But not by our doing. On queue when we're told by the media to feel angry. This country and world are a trainwreck and the past 50 years our endless search for comfort amid everyday work has caused us to pass the buck of responsibility, so to say. The majority still trust authority, even if they know they're corporate shills in suits.
     
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