Is there evidence of the Hebrew Exodus? Doubtful everyone will agree. Even with absolute truth, there has to be one liar. Wiki says [/quote] Hyksos - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia this may have led the Egyptian priest and historian Manetho to identify the coming of the Hyksos with the sojourn in Egypt of Joseph and his brothers, and led to some authors identifying the expulsion of the Hyksos with the Exodus. It may also indicate that the "expulsion" of the Hyksos reported in the Egyptian records mainly refers to the expulsion of the Semitic rulers and military/political elite and does not indicate a mass expulsion of the lower classes who, in the Ancient World, were traditionally exploited by their conquerors rather than expelled or massacred. The story of the Hyksos was known to the Greeks,[who?] who attempted to identify it within their own mythology with the expulsion of Belus (Baal?) https://www.google.com/#hl=en&sugex...169129253598f0&bpcl=38897761&biw=1058&bih=503 According to one source (lost to me now) the Hyksos are the people known as modern day Jews (Germanic/Khazar/mixed-British) they were so unruly and created so much trouble in Egypt they were eventually exiled. This fits with the story of Moses who was exiled for murder. Pharaoh was tricked into breaking the 10 commandments when Abraham (leading thousands of troops from Ur) told him Sarah was his sister. Moses who wrote thou shalt not kill, murdered his half brother member of the royal family. Do you see why they might be exiled.? Also the timing of the Hyksos matches the biblical timing for the exodus and the expolsion od Thera/Santorini which caused the tidal influx required for the exiled to cross the Sea of Reeds. The Exodus and the Red Sea Crossing - Part 1 [YouTube]- ... The Exodus and the Red Sea Crossing - Part 1 - YouTube So Etymologists say its possible, Josephus says its true, the timing of 3 events line up, hence its a reasonable model. There was some genetic evidence but I cant find it, it popped up with goolgle though, linking to the Aaaronic Jews. When I read this story (wiki) it is almost an exact match of bible history, on EVERY point! Jeremiah recoreded the Assyrian (Turk/Assyrian/Khazr/Armenian) people from the north (Jerimiah and several prophet scribes warned of) who were ruthless, used bows, javlins, and helmets. Keep in mind that the bible warns that a people will claim to be Jews but are not. The Khazars have changed their names to Jewish names. It is said they are banker families today. The Scythians were envied for their beauty, not blond hair but GOLD hair fair skin, tall, blue eyed, lived thousands of years old their women were coveted by other tribes on earth. BTW not only did I research this but I posted it many times here. This guy (the ??????????????? archeologist) did a series on this. Others have dug up evidence of the exodus to Salem ... which the Gews added a prefix to claim OWNERSHIP of, now called GERUsalem, (like GER-Man) salam/salem means peace (city of peace). So in this model (I present none as absolute) the Hyksos invaded Egypt from the north, were children of Jacob (name means liar) set up a kingdom with a lone God Seth (Satan?). Created so much trouble the Egyptians had to plan to get rid of them. They introduced the most modern weapons. So some guy says it isnt true so what? What does all this have to do with Jesus do you think ? What Wolfgang Helck (from one Sirius gang of wolves) says makes sense. The bible refers to Sarah as "fair" (skinned) and racism against darker tribes (like Falasha Black Jews) exists to this day, in government policy. So the Hyksos being Aryan, shitdisturbers, coming through the Caucus Mountains (Caucasians) ... warlike, advanced in their military. It seems to all connect. After Israel fell to Rome Jews went to Germany (and Europe) engineered the fall of Rome (Barbarians/Warlords) and set out to regain the State of Israel. Its well known that Germany pushed Britian (part German) to take Palastine. Somehow this model makes sense to me. I wonder if the word "WITH" could be mistaken, and the true meaning be "OF" (in red above) ?
It depends on what you mean by evidence. Outside the Bible, there's scant evidence and nothing that could be called "proof". Finkelstein and Silberman's The Bible Unearthed reports recent archaeology that casts doubt that there was a large-scale invasion of outsiders into Canaan, and instead supports the view that the Israelites, who first centered in the Canaanite highlands, were Canaanites with similar culture except for the absence of pig bones in their camps. There was a population explosion from 12,000 B.C. to 7,500 B.C. which seems too rapid to be explained by birthrates and might have been the result of outside immigration. There are also no traces of the wanderings in the desert by a sizeable number of people (The Bible says over 600,000; Menetho says it was 80,000 "impure people" joined by some 400 thousand Hyksos). And there are no clear Egyptian records of such an event, nor of a man named Moses (but according to Manetho his real name was Osarseph). There is an intriguing Egyptian document, the Ipuwer papyrus, which details plagues, upheavals, and slaves abandoning their work, and even the striking statement: "the river is blood and one drinks from it." Probably this wasn't literally blood, and refers to the Nile turning red from red earth that it carries during major floods. Of course, there was forced labor in Egypt, there was brick making, and there were intense building programs. The Egyptians had long-standing problems with the Abiru or Haiiru (Hebrew?), warlike Western Semitic nomads culturally related to the Hyksos.Unfortunately, neither the Bible nor the Ipuwer papyrus tell us when the events occurred or who was Pharaoh at the time. The Bible points to around the 14th-13th centuries BC for the beginning of Exodus, with completion around the early 1200s. The Ipuwer manuscript is a copy dating anywhere from the 1800s BC to the 1300s B.C., and seems to refer to events earlier than the date of the copy. The existence of a people called Israel is established by the Mernepthah stelle of the 13th century, which proclaims an Egyptian victory over them. Whether true or false, it is the first non-biblical reference to Israel. Merneptah was son of Ramses II (12213-1203 BC) whom Yul Brynner played in the Cecil B. Demille production--a favorite popular candidate for the Pharoah but one whose reign would better fit the Pharaoh of tribulation, leaving his Mereneptah (1213-1203 BC), who had a short ten-year reign but one of military accomplishment against the Libyans, as Moses' pursuer. Another major contender is Amenhotep II, who gets us closer to the Biblical date (1425 to 1400 BC), but his stable reign doesn't quite fit. Josephus says that the Pharaoh of oppression was Tuthmosis, which could be Tuthmosis III, father of Amenhotep II;or Tuthmosis I, whose son, the undistinguished Tuthmosis II (1492-1479) would than be Moses' pursuer. Whatever. I'll get to the Hyksos hypothesis eventually.
that may have helped proof is a fools game and israelites already lived in europe scotland etc before the exodus but my reads indicate it happened very similar to bible accounts moses murdered a member of the royal family [half brother] so exile seems likely
I'll go with archeological science over all the various attempts to join either India or Europe directly to the Semitic Near Eastern peoples and their religions. Indirect contact and influence, yes, but making Europeans into "Israelites" or Indians into "Israelites" or Afghans into "Israelites", is not justified by the archeological record. Other archeologists have found that the household room pattern in ancient Hyksos dwellings matches that of ancient Canaanites and Occam's Razor logic suggests the nearest neighbors most likely being the ones invading Egypt as a large foreign army would have left a large historic trail like Alexander did, like Julius Caesar did. I do think the Canaanites or a part of them, being into trade big time probably did pick up Hittite horse and chariot and compound bow technology that allowed them to seize Egypt and install the Hyksos Shepherd Kings. Because Megiddo is a site hard to beat for showing different Canaanite populations as each group wanting to go south or north had to pass through Megiddo as the established trade route, I think Finkelstein and Silberman's work will stand up and prove the writers of the Bible told whoppers which were only believed and still believed because Judaism has piggy-backed onto Christianity with Christianity's immense political and cultural power, enough to keep historical truth away from believers to this very day.
Just a couple of picky points. The term "Shepherd Kings" given to the Hyksos by the Egyptian Manetho and by Josephus is now regarded as a mistranslation. Hyksos comes from Heka khasevet which means "Rulers of Foreign Lands". Also, most scholars today think the Hyksos takeover was a creeping incursion of mostly Western Semites (i.e., Syro-Canaanites), with some non-Semitic Hurrian elements, instead of a sudden military invasion. Prominent among them were the Edomites and the Amelekites, but the Apiru (Hebrews) who settled among them were perceived by the Egyptians to be part of the mix. The Western Semites came to Egypt and settled mostly in the Delta area and around the city of Avaris--drawn in part by employment opportunities from the building projects.The Egyptians were too preoccupied with internal troubles to control the immigrant populations. Eventually, the Hyksos were strong enough to install their own rulers as the Fifteenth Egyptian Dynasty of Lower Egypt, but were never able to penetrate Upper Egypt.
Abraham, Pharaoh of Egypt This is an amazing tale of the history of the biblical patriarchs, they were nothing less than pharaohs of Egypt. If I indicated that biblical Abraham was a pharaoh of Egypt, would it appear to be an utterly absurd figment of a deranged mind? Initially that may seem so, but this is only because we have grown so used to the orthodox ecclesiastical creed that we have forgotten that the Biblical Abraham was in fact a very powerful man. Josephus, the first century Jewish historian says of Abraham: Pharaoh Necho, king of Egypt at the time, descended on this land with an immense army and seized Sarah the Princess, mother of our nation. And what did our forefather Abraham do? Did he avenge the insult by force of arms? Yet he had three hundred and eighteen officers under him, with unlimited manpower at his disposal! Three hundred and eighteen officers, not men, under his command, it was obviously quite a sizable army that Abraham had at his disposal - possibly running into the tens of thousands. Abraham like Joshua and Jesus Christ arent flower and bead types but warlords/warlocks. The exodus occurred after Moses murdered his half-brother and son of pharaoh