Not sure how many people are seeing this... it's been eluded to in the media but in a way to make it sound like some psychotic rambling of a killer and rarely actually linked to. So here it is. All I can add is, in the words of Chris Rock, I'm not saying what he's doing is right, I'm just saying, I understand. http://boywithgrenade.org/2013/02/07/christopher-dorners-manifesto/
Mr. Dorner says: "I am the walking exigent circumstance you created" And this is true, and this is all the reason any government should need for making sure that it treats its citizens fairly and preserves their fundamental civil liberties. Any other grifter could tell them that eventually you will cross the wrong person at the wrong time and pay the price. You can't take everything away from people and then expect them to lay down and die. When there's nothing left but revenge, the vast majority of people will pursue it. That most of them will do so ineptly is what authorities who abuse their power count on; but then comes a Christopher Dorner. I don't condone what he's doing, but I don't blame him for doing it either.
The same could be said about the rash cops hunting Dorner who fired rounds at three innocent people in two vehicles and shot two of them. This is the type of thing that happens when people act on emotions rather than reason.
Indeed. If even half of what Dorner says is true, then people in the LAPD have been eschewing reason for quite some time. I'm not so sure the man's gone mad, though, as another poster said. His "manifesto" read more like a last will and testament than a suicide letter. Lots of people in this country have probably reacted similarly to their indignation, but you don't hear about them because they're not trained to use lethal force and effectively doing so. They do just get put down, if they don't just give up. Like I said, I don't condone it; but I don't condone corruption in the legal system either, and it's everywhere. Can passive resistance and conscientious objection still have any effect in today's America?
Do you honestly think he wrote that with the expectation that he would survive this? I doubt it. A lot of people wouldn't killed complete innocents along the way. People who had no connection other, for example, being the child of someone who he perceived slighted him. This "man" has no honor.
He is now, allegedly, taunting the father of the woman he killed. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2276671/Christopher-Dorner-1-million-reward-Killer-cop-called-victims-father-taunt-death.html#axzz2Kaq3TBqB
Actually, my whole point was that he obviously doesn't expect to survive this, and feels he has nothing left to lose. And a lot of people wouldn't kill anyone. That's my point. A lot of people aren't trained to use lethal force and would just be left in despair. The people who screwed this guy over obviously didn't have enough foresight to see that their systematic ignoring of his claims might incite him to violence, and violence that they and the navy trained him quite well to utilize; and if half of what he claims is true, they are just as wrong as he, and have been for a long time. Have you been processed through the legal system (civil or criminal) where you live? If so, how was your experience? Do you feel you were fairly treated? These aren't rhetorical questions. I leave them open for anyone to answer. The existence of someone like a Dorner raises serious questions about the justice system, as much as about the effects of depression and/or madness, which can be just as much the result of the circumstances he describes as from head trauma or the arbitrary biochemical makeup of the individual. To just ignore that question about authority as subsidiary or irrelevent is what created Dorner in the first place. Better open your eyes, man. I agree, though, that he needs to be stopped; but instead of treating the authorities that stop him like heroes, we need to probe deeply into their dealings and find out what's really going on, how bad it really is, and demand that things be changed. It's been a long time coming. Americans have forgotten that in a democracy it is the citizens who are supposed to be the authority. Are we still living in a democracy?
Screwed over? Who said he actually did get screwed over, besides him? Who says what he alleges is true? It isn't enough to want what his says to be true, which you so obviously do. You, like him, have to be able to prove it. Neither of you have done so so far. No one that I know, and certainly not me, are treating the authorities that are hunting him as heroes. They are men and women doing their job in hunting down a cold-blooded murdered. Of course we're not living in a democracy. This is a constitutional republic we are living it.
He said it. Who else would? The point is that this guy went through an entire civil process dating back to 2007. I'm familiar with civil processes like that. I know how they treat "evidence" and what they are liable to treat as "evidence", depending on their particular biases and political agendas. "constitutional republic" is stretching it a bit, as much as democracy. I'd say Banana Republic, but that doesn't quite fit because the only thing we seem to be exporting is our own citizens' jobs. Like I said, I'm not condoning his actions, but it is plain that his madness has a method, and though it is morally ill-conceived, it is strategically very effective (with respect to the effect he wishes to cause), and must be the result of long deliberation and premeditation. Where does it come from? These are questions I'm asking, not bloated chest-thumping statements I'm making -- though I'm sure quite a few on here would be happy to accuse me of doing just that in other instances. I don't think Dorner's actions are the solution to the problem, but a symptom of it. When your chest and arm and neck start hurting, you can just keep taking pain relievers, or you can go to the doctor and see what's going on with your heart. Which action do you think is going to assure you live longer?
