Soy

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  1. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Do people still think soy is a health food... that it's actually good for you?

    I will not touch anything with soy in it. I will share my reasoning for this, but first I would like to hear everyone else's opinion of soy and if/why they think it's healthy.
     
  2. Tyrsonswood

    Tyrsonswood Senior Moment Lifetime Supporter

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    Never anything other than soy sauce... Very little of that.
     
  3. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Soy sauce is actually fine because it's fermented.
     
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    Tyrsonswood Senior Moment Lifetime Supporter

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  5. Lodog

    Lodog Senior Member

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    I eat meat so I don't need to supplement my diet.

    Actually I just looked at my protein powder I use before and after I lift weights and soy is an ingredient. I'm sure it's processed as hell, but I can't afford a steak for before and after I workout to promote muscle growth each day.

    It's not a big part of my diet, but it serves it's purpose.
     
  6. Driftwood Gypsy

    Driftwood Gypsy Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    I use soy sauce, I've enjoyed Chocolate Soy Milk (omfg chocolate explosion!!!), and I love edemame....
     
  7. GreenGreenGrassofHome

    GreenGreenGrassofHome Member

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    soy = braised pus
     
  8. daisymae

    daisymae Senior Member

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    Come on, Rat, you know you want to grow boobies...;)

    I used to eat soy as a meat substitute until I read about how it mimics female hormones.
     
  9. I'minmyunderwear

    I'minmyunderwear Newbie

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    i've done absolutely no research on soy, so i have absolutely no idea what, if any, benefits it may have. back when my grandpa used to have a farm that i sometimes worked on, i would eat soybeans off the plants. other than that, i've never intentionally consumed anything with soy in the name, although i've also never intentionally avoided anything that may have soy in it.
     
  10. SunDweller1989

    SunDweller1989 Member

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    Agreed. For a time I loved soy products but it seems the negatives can't be ignored. The taste is fantastic and the varying textures prove it to be a versatile food, and that I'll never hold against it.
     
  11. Kinky Ramona

    Kinky Ramona Back by popular demand!

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    I was allergic to it as a kid, so I haven't ever seen it as a health food. I guess I outgrew the allergy because when I was a vegetarian as a teenager I never had any reactions or died (my allergies have never been so severe that anaphylactic shock was a worry, I guess you could consider them more "intolerances"). I don't eat that stuff anymore since I went back to eating meat, but I love the hell out of some soy sauce.
     
  12. SpacemanSpiff

    SpacemanSpiff Visitor

    well it sure doesnt seem to be hurting the chinese population

    so it cant be that bad
     
  13. r0llinstoned

    r0llinstoned Gute Nacht, süßer Prinz

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    I once got soy sauce with my order from panda express and tried it and didn't like it.
     
  14. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    But they eat mostly fermented soy.
     
  15. PEACEFUL LIBRA

    PEACEFUL LIBRA DAMN RIGHT I'M A WEIRDO

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    theres a difference between fermented soy and not ???
     
  16. cynthy160

    cynthy160 Senior Member

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  17. cynthy160

    cynthy160 Senior Member

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    It's arguable how much of consumed soy is fermented and not fermented.

    http://www.theveganrd.com/2011/03/soyfoods-in-asia-how-much-do-people-really-eat.html

    "And contrary to popular opinion, the soy products regularly consumed in these countries are not all—or even mostly—fermented. In Japan, about half of soy consumption comes from the fermented food miso and natto and half comes from tofu and dried soybeans. In Shanghai, most of the soyfoods consumed are unfermented, with tofu and soymilk making the biggest contributions. In fact, even in Indonesia, where tempeh is a revered national food, unfermented soy products like tofu account for around half of soy intake."
     
  18. cynthy160

    cynthy160 Senior Member

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    "High-stakes fight over soybeans at high court"

    http://news.yahoo.com/high-stakes-fight-over-soybeans-high-court-140546296--finance.html

    "Monsanto's opponents argue that the company has tried to use patent law to control the supply of seeds for soybeans, corn, cotton, canola, sugar beets and alfalfa. The result has been a dramatic rise in seed prices and reduced options for farmers, according to the Center for Food Safety. The group opposes the spread of genetically engineered crops and says their benefits have been grossly overstated.

    "It has become extremely difficult for farmers to find high-quality conventional seeds," said Bill Freese, the center's science policy analyst.

    Consumer groups and organic food producers have fought Monsanto over genetically engineered farm and food issues in several settings. They lost a campaign in California last year to require labels on most genetically engineered processed foods and produce. Monsanto and other food and chemical companies spent more than $40 million to defeat the ballot measure."
     
  19. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    80-90% of soybeans grown in the US are GMO.

    They are also a rotator crop, so they collect all sorts of pollutants, on top of some of the natural plant toxins they contain.

    And then there is the whole thing with the phytoestrogens, which could be an entire topic in itself. Most infant formula contains tons of soy, so it's no wonder so many boys are developing feminine characteristics these days.

    Processed foods are just loaded with GMO soy derivatives.
     
  20. Manservant Hecubus

    Manservant Hecubus Master of Funk and Evil

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    I'm starting to think that there are people following PR around just to thumb down everything he says.

    It's a valid topic and he's right. I wanna see who these pro-soy people are and what their actual opinion and sources are on this topic.
     
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