Should I do LSD?

It's amusing when people worry about "what will I do to be occupied".

I can't find a link atm, but like Eat said, a little guidance is in order. Google trip sitter and read a bit more. Find a sitter guide and have your buddy read it. A sitter is good advice but a bad sitter can make things go south. Generally, a sitter should behave like they are just hanging while the kid is asleep in bed. Less to no interaction is better than the wrong interaction. They can hang out, read a book, sit outside. Just being in proximity accomplishes the goal of looking after your best interests.
And ya, a little nervousness is normal. Don't let it consume you. As mentioned, the majority of negative propaganda is just that.

 

i did lsd once, two tabs, and it brought up all of my bad memories, i felt like all my friends i was with hated me, and was just panicing the whole time. so its not always going to be good. and it made me start to react a lot slower and not as well in social situations. it was like 8 months ago and i still feel a difference.

 

That sounds scary, Dylan843! I get bad anxiety from smoking weed myself, so I hope that's not the same for acid...

 

usually there is some learning to be had from experiences like this. maybe you were not with your closest, best friends? or maybe you were, but there was a person or two there that you might not normally get along with great.

acid is not a drug for social interaction! it's know for making language difficult and for producing visual and auditory changes. how are you supposed to act normally when that's going on?

but with that said, i'm really sorry that you still feel off 8 months later.
i bet more people than you know "feel weird in social situations." i would try to not focus on it, and it might just go away.

paranoia from weed is not the same as paranoia from LSD. weed can make me slightly paranoid, pretty frequently. meaning, it's common for it to make people anxious, but it's usually not terrible. the LSD experience is usually pretty free of anxiety for me, but if you DO get anxious, it can be pretty intense.

LSD can be a pretty emotional trip for me. everything is more intense on it. so it can amplify the good and/or the bad.

 

I see... Well, I get very anxious from weed, a weird kinda anxiousness. Maybe it's the exact opposite for me on acid!

 

No.

It is not.

With LSD you will not be fit to talk to people who shouldn't know you're tripping. You won't be fit to do very much, especially follow any sort of schedule or anything. The point with anxiety is comming to peace with yourself and thus curing anxiety in the future. And doing this will probably require a painful, "bad" trip.

 

^^^i would say that depends if you have bad anxiety in everyday life. i don't suffer from anxiety, i only really get it if i get too high on weed, like when i take a break and smoke for the 1st time after. i don't think LSD is as likely as weed to produce anxiety, but if something sets of your "normal everyday" anxiety while on LSD, it might be harder to control.
i don't really have much experience with anxiety first-hand, so what i say about it should be taken with a grain of salt

 

Well exactly, it would be hard to control on LSD.

And my opinion is that it must be embraced, understood, and accepted, in order to fix it. Fighting or controlling aspects of your thought processes on LSD an an awful idea.

I know what you mean with weed, but I think that's just called being high

 

I don't know if we swim here or not but swim was thinking about it for a very long time and than finally found himself on a trip and swim totally recommended it, given you are a positive person and your setting is decent :] swim is a newb to forums so don't mind if he is not speaking with the correct language.

swim's experience started off with distortions of vision kind of like a shroomy effect.. and within minutes felt a buzz.. and swim was with two friends and began feeling and seeing millions of variations of their words (what they were saying/speaking) swim left the room to focus on his time. Swim had an impossible time talking to people but swim was in a very very very nice place... it was like the database of my subconscious was 'unlocked' and the second I thought of an item stored in there, I could see it in a million variations and than it bled into images of other items, to conclude it was really positive and I recommend learning as much as you can before hand.

 

We don't swim here. You can't get in trouble for saying you did or are planning to do acid.

 

I'm a newcomer to LSD and have experienced two trips so far. I feel like we have some similarities so I might be well prepared to tell you a little about the experience. I'll let you know first the similarities we share.

Had these. I nicknamed these abstract nightmares.

I had mild panic attacks where people's voices took on a terrifying tone.

A presentation at university filled me with dread. And I know myself that I'm capable of assuming different personalities: I often mimic people's stylistic flair and have even borrowed optimistic or romantic world views from stuff I have watched and read (primarily from anime).

For all you know I could have more problems than you, my outlook on people in general is very negative and this has been exacerbated by smoking pot. I haven't cultivated many relationships either, both with women or friends. From these points you can get an idea here where I am/was. And I'm even bemused to say this; that before I used acid I had little idea I had so much potential, so much improvement just waiting to start. The affects of acid gave me a head start in the right direction.

You are fortunate to be accompanied by two friends in this partaking. Put all your trust in them and they will be there to help you. A sober sitter will be there to help you feel safe, to be a living connection with the real world. My friends have told me to share anything and everything, don't hold back what you want to share, even if you feel it might hurt others or put you in worse stead.

You will get so much out of these trips and don't worry about whatever happens. What you learn about your mind is invaluable. And don't forget that all LSD is unlocking the mind from its shackles and fetters. What you see on LSD is what your mind wants to show you and it'll be beyond your wildest (and limited) imagination!

I should mention that I had mdma the evening after my first and second trips. My friend has been fantastic in terms of researching the effects and doses of mdma and bought it pure (mdma is dosed according to the weight of the person). Mdma has been instrumental in bringing about the realisations incurred from my acid trips and incredibly it brings out the most wonderful parts of my personality. I often joke with my friend as the effects kick in "why can't I have this personality when I'm sober!" I've been fortunate in using it at the Ministry of Sound in London when Markus Schulz was playing and the experience was incredible. I left a lasting impression on one of the stunning women in the VIP lounge there, hitting exactly on what she loved to talk about, how she liked to interact.

Anyway, you will realise many things about yourself on acid. Just remember one thing: these realisations don't often come during the trip. At least for me, they usually always came after. It could differ from person to person. Just don't get stuck searching for something like I did a few times. You plateau fast.

I will be really interested to hear about your first trip! I wish you all the best in whatever comes to you!

 

As usuall, if you ask yourself this question, it means that you shouldn't.

 

In my opinion, it depends on guidance.

You can get so much from it, if you're prepared for it and if you've got someone trusted and experienced to guide you.

I wish Timothy Leary had been allowed to continue his work.

You perhaps normally wouldn't expect criminals to be the best to dose such a substance... but he managed to reduce the re-offending rate from 70% to 10%! Nothing short of incredible, would you have thought letting them trip would be the best of ideas?

Everyone can read all the information out there about LSD... I know I must have spent a good few months reading endlessly before ever actually dosing... nothing can prepare you for the trip, which is why it's always good to have someone experienced to guide you through.

 

That bit about Leary and the recidivism rate experiments is a bit of history that is mostly, sadly, forgotten.

I'd tend to agree with you about the OP Weat... questioning or doubting isn't necessarily a sign that one shouldn't do it, it's more a sign that one should do as you did, learn what they can and make an educated decision for themselves. If only drug "education" took a similar approach, rather than the "Mr. Mackey" one.

It's not good to blindly accept "drugs are bad, m'kay?" any more than "lsd won't hurt you, don't be a pussy"

 

And also, questioning it shows that you are taking it seriously...



And yes exactly... drug education is not education - it's prohibition... educate and guide, don't shut off. There are some truly dangerous drugs out there, LSD is not one of them... the problem is prohibition is extremely misguiding and classifies LSD the same as Heroin, Crack and Meth!

It's the very reason some people consider marijuana a "gateway drug"... purely because of prohibition... people try it... realise that there's nothing wrong about it & then suddenly assume they can put all other drugs in the same pot... duhhh

 

I totally disagree.

If you don't ask yourself, it means you should not, is a much better rule of thumb.

Just like how questioning your sanity and perceptions is a better indicator of mental health and sound opinions, than is a firm conviction that one's self is healthy.

OP, I skimmed, but I would say, totally. I know I replied to this thread before, but I don't think it was serious or directly to you, could be wrong. Anyways, I have long had social problems, especially with public speaking and such. I still do to some degree, but it's nowhere near as bad. I still sometimes sweat badly in public, all day, for no reason other than being in public, and it ends as soon as I'm not.

For your day to day life (NOT during LSD) I would suggest 300mg valerian root in the morning, or a moderate dose of kava kava. (Personally, I'd use valerian root. It works nicely, but has no noticible cognitive effects for me, unless I think about the day as a whole -- I'm more relaxed and not drenched in sweat. It takes you down a notch).

I also suggest immersian therapy. For me, not combing my hair or wearing shoes really helped. I'm much better at being on the spot, and at not being bothered by it, or by people's opinions of me. And I think I've become better at being polite with strangers, while still getting my disagreement accross to them, and probably being more convincing than if I was not as polite.

But yes, I think that a wider experience of the feelings possible for a human mind, and applying some empathy and consideration of how others feel and why they feel that way (assuming you feel, afterwards, that you have some sort of insight into yourself and/or the universe that you did not before) can really help you get a handle on the world, and the human experience and how you want to face it.

I also strongly suggest MDMA (not in a rave setting, and if you've already had LSD, it's especially good mixed with LSD, though not for your first LSD experience, which should be on just acid, although once you're past the peak pot is acceptable). It has a similar teaching action, but less reality-tearing and can teach you about yourself and about other people, and how to take the good and manage the bad in a positive manner.

 

I don't remember if I said this before, but if you are going to be smoking weed on your trip, definitely go with what Roor said and smoke after the peak, not before. Weed can be disorienting and make you really uncomfortable especially on your first trip (speaking from personal experience).

 

every one should do lsd