Who needs girls when you have video games and internet porn?

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I'm not too old (19) but I'm already fed up with women, as someone whose been denied any sort of female contact. It's not even that I'm bad looking (I think I'm reasonably decent looking) Girls are basically repulsed by men of low social status, like myself. That's just their nature I'm afraid. The worst part is they don't even realize it, much less admit to it. They pride themselves on being the least shallow of the sexes for valuing such things as "confidence" and "personality", when in reality they just suck up to the "cool" popular guy with the most friends.

As they get older popularity becomes less important and they instead tend to favor general success and wealth, as these determine a man's status in adulthood more than how "cool" he is.

What bothers me most is just how rude and unfriendly most (almost all) women are to men they perceive as being of low social status.

They want a man of high social status -- that could mean the 'coolest' kid in school, the swaggering wealthy businessman, or the 'mature', handsome gentleman, who likes to show off his sophisticated tastes. In all cases, it's his social standing among his peers that makes him desirable. Fame, by definition, is the pinnacle of social status, and it makes a man irresistible to almost every woman regardless of his deficiencies in other areas -- even those to which women will explicitly profess an attraction, such as confidence, charisma, politeness, intelligence, etc. So long as he's popular, women will flock to him like mindless sheep.

Something I've noticed recently is that whenever I overhear a group of women talking in a cafe or in some public place, they are almost always talking about people; specific people who they know -- gossip, in other words- so and so's a b**tch, so and so's a slut, this guy is cute, this guy is a creep, etc. Men on the other hand, talk mostly about things, ideas, concepts, hobbies, etc. It's as if the female brain is configured more for navigating the social environment than the physical one. A woman will seek out the 'hot' regions of the social landscape and deploy herself there, spawning her offspring with the highest status men -- though whilst the genetically fit get a free pass, the less fortunate must invest many hours in the gym and in front of the bedroom mirror, packaging themselves to ease their journey through this social landscape.

It's amazing the lack of sympathy women have for the sorts of men they find undesirable, especially given the common perception of women as being generally more empathetic. As a man, I have a lot of sympathy for physically unattractive women because I acknowledge how important looks are in attracting men, and I'm quite apologetic as I admit it. Women these days though seem to have convinced themselves that their sexual preferences are a perfect judge of male character; that if a man finds himself consistently rejected by women, then he deserves it; it's his fault; he's a bad person. And so they will refer to these men as 'creeps' without feeling the slightest bit of guilt.



. This means that for me, as a heterosexual man, my only chance of attracting a woman is to be successful in some way -- socially, vocationally, or financially. And the woman that I finally attract will be a greedy parasite, and I will secretly despise her.

But I say, who needs women anyway when you have video games and internet porn, am I right? /end rant

 

I see girls with guys of low social status all the time

 

yeah there are *probably* plenty of women out there who will like a guy who is really a decent guy and has a lot to offer.

emotionally i feel for you. i'm in the same boat. i'm not high on the social ladder, i don't have much to offer that i can demonstrate with flair. i want to agree with you in anger, because it all feels like bullshit.

but somehow, i don't think it is. i just think it's me, and that i've given up and i'm not working hard enough and i'm satisfied complaining because i'm a little bitch and it's easier to whine than actually do something about the situation i'm in

maybe i'm wrong, though. that's alway's a possibilty. i doubt it, though. i'm pretty sure i'm just a fucking idiot and i'm lazy and not working hard enough. and i'm pretty sure the same can be said about you

 

that's a pretty fair assessment of the situation. video games and internet porn get boring after a while though, unless you also have weed to go with them.

 

Look, I've had a girl for 6 years now. She's one of the good ones. But you'd have to be asinine to say that what this man is saying isn't generally true.

There are exceptions; lots'f them. But it's definitely true that the majority of women are interested primarily in status. It's an evolutionary trait and an important one, at that. And it's undeniably true that it is socially acceptable to disrespect males who show unwanted interest.

Really attractive, smooth men, are kryptonite to even the most respectable women; no matter how terrible of people they are. I know a guy that doesn't do shit and has at least 6 illegitimate children, who all the women at work fawn over, including the boss, because he's fit as hell, and nice and fun when socializing.


I just have two important corrections to OP's rant. Guys can gossip a helluva lot, too.

And more importantly to the subject;
There's some important areas of success you are forgetting all about: personal, intellectual, chemical.
All it will take is one connection for you to pass this problem on to future generations of frustrated youth.

 

Evolutionary psychology has been hijacked by people to justify something they already believe. If you really read up on it, this is not what the data says.

There definitely are women who are mean to guys when they feel the guy hitting on them isn't up to their standard. These aren't women you'd want to date or even be friends with, anyway, so you shouldn't let yourself feel bad when it happens. But by no means is it socially acceptable to be rude to someone, unless the person was in fact rude to you first.

Personally, if a guy hits on me and I'm not interested, I'm quite polite to him. If I saw someone, anyone, male or female, outright dissing someone for having the temerity of being interested in them, I'd think very badly of that person.

Fit, nice, fun...so he's attractive, and you wonder why he's popular? That's not a mystery, there.

I bet he's also charming and sweet, but just isn't into monogamy. That in and of itself isn't a problem. The problem with this guy is that he's terribly irresponsible with birth control!

As for the OP's rant, I have to ask him: what does HE have to offer women? Has he kept himself clean and neat? He doesn't have to be a fashion plate, but has he tried to look good and buys clothes that are flattering? Has he learned the finer points of socialization? Has he tried to better himself though reading books, learning new things, having hobbies he can talk about? Is he a good conversationalist? Is he fiscally responsible- does he take care of his money and isn't constantly broke, and doesn't live in his mom's basement? He doesn't have to be rich or even have an elite sort of job- he just has to have a job and be able to care of his own bills.

I hear these rants all the time, and most usually it's from guys who are awkward socially. I can't blame them for being sad, lonely, or depressed. I can't blame them for feeling left out while guys who are more outgoing are all out dating. I don't blame him for feeling resentful towards "mean girls"- that is, girls who have actually mistreated him. But if he is saying all girls are like this, then he is the one with the problem, because that is simply untrue. There are plenty of nice, shy, socially awkward girls out there who are in the same boat, and plenty of girls who just aren't into the big, loud, macho stereotype so many guys live up to.

My advice for the OP?

-Get out of the house. You can't learn to socialize if you never socialize. If you are naturally an awkward person, this can take time and practice. But it can be done.

- Join clubs to meet people who have the same hobbies as you do. These days, it's fashionable to be a nerd. If you like manga, there are plenty of manga geeks out there. If you like computers, you are in good company. If you like exercise, go to a gym or join a running club. There are also a variety of classes you can take, like dance or martial arts.

- Give those shy, socially awkward girls a chance. So many of you guys get pissed off when more social people sneer at you, but then you go on to sneer at other socially awkward people. Stop being a snob yourself! You might even find you have more in common with someone who is shy and awkward just like you.

- Bathe! Brush your teeth! Shave! You don't have to be a fashion plate (I'm mostly jeans/casual myself) but you should at least groom yourself and wear flattering clothes.

- Work on your self-confidence! Learn to accept yourself for who you are, instead of constantly comparing yourself with other people. So the guy at work bags a new girl every weekend...who cares?!? I have friends who are more social, more beautiful, more successful with men/women than I am, but it doesn't bother me in the slightest, because I have managed to carve out my own niche. I know who I am, and I am proud and happy to be me.

- Get educated and learn to be a good conversationalist. Read books, newspapers, articles on the internet. Have a few topics ready for when you go out on a date so you won't feel stuck.

Good luck, OP. I do hope you come around and see that life doesn't have to be like this.

 

so does bangin the same girl after a while. i think diversity is the key.

 

This is incredibly sexist. If you dislike women this much it's no wonder you have a hard time getting dates.

Geeze. Just look around this forum if you want to see women who can talk about things other than gossip and fashion! I can talk politics, business, hobbies, and news with the best of 'em. Stop insulting women and worrying about what they think or do, and instead look at who you are.

There are shallow, stupid, rude, lazy people of every race, creed, religion (and non-religion) sex and gender. Who cares about them? You don't have to spend your time worrying about the people you don't like- focus on the ones you do want to get to know.

I have a real problem with stupid, shallow women, too. And I vigorously hate men who are sexist, loud, macho and shallow. And you know how I handle that? I just don't hang out with 'em. Case closed!

 

There are good and bad in both sexes. You certainly can argue that men are superficial in their own way. But I've noticed that women are attracted to passionate men, not necessarily successful or handsome men. Throw yourself into things that you're good at and work hard at those things. Be the best you can be, whether it's working at a restaurant or running a hedge-fund. But always be passionate about whatever it is that you do, without concern about the eventual results or "success" of your work. I think that if you start there, good women will find you. You won't have to go looking for them (and subsequently feel rejected).

I've been in your shoes. There are times in the past when I felt, "who needs real people when we can all find comfort in other things?" But hiding from something you're frustrated with isn't the answer. I know that it was tough from me when I was young. I didn't exactly grow into my confidence until late in college and beyond. Now that I love what I do and I do my own thing passionately, I don't feel myself at a lack for finding women at all. They find me

 

women with great bodies and good looks who know all about how to do their hair and makeup and dress well and smell nice generally are into status and appearance so of course they only want to date wealthy and/ or good looking men.

But not every woman is like that and by you thinking that way you are just as shallow as the women you purport to hate.

For every male who feels like he has no money or isn't very good looking there is a female who is lonely because she has a weight problem.

lots of men all chase the same small pool of hot chicks just like lots of women chase the same small pool of rich and handsome men.

Why play that game? There are lots of fat girls out there who are sweet and generous and they have vaginas and know how to (or can be taught) to suck cock.

You need to turn off your TV, put down the glossy magazines and stop listening to the mindless drivel of other shallow males. You can find true happiness with a woman who is not obsessed with appearance and status. Who would you rather be with anyway, a female who loves to shop and watch Entertainment tonight or a woman who likes to stay home with her cat, cooking and baking?

From adolescence until my mid thirties I would only date slender women who dressed well. All that did was bankrupt me and drive me to the point of suicide.

Why? Because I am average looking and have no money. The fact that I am tall, have a nice cock, am smart and a romantic, doting lover was not enough for most of them, they wanted what I had PLUS money and good looks. None of these women knew how to cook, none of them liked to stay home and if I had put a ballgame on and grabbed a beer they would have been scheming on how to get out of the house.

So, after being single for awhile I decided when I started dating again I would look for what really matters; character, honesty, affection and a desire to be domestic. I found that in my wife. She is overweight by most standards and was very self conscious about her weight but she is cute and when I looked at her the first time I saw real, inner beauty, sincerity and kindness. I will never forget the moment I met her what a feeling of peace that came over me. 17 years later we are still very much in love. I wouldn't want ANY other woman than her and don't even find these skinny fashion whores the slightest bit attractive anymore. Generally the only women I do see that I think are pretty are the ones that resemble my wife; chubby Italian or Jewish looking women with dark brown/ black hair, brown eyes, great big boobs and a soft tummy. Very much the opposite of the skinny blonde haired blue eyed bitches most men want. let them want, I just smile, content in the knowledge that I know something they don't.

do yourself a favor, stop chasing vampires and find a real woman.

 

one love brederen

 

OP: this has not been my experience at all. Maybe you're spending too much time with video games and Internet porn?

The type of woman I usually involve myself with couldn't care less about social status. They care about how you make them feel.

 

damn, it would be cool if it actually worked like this.

 

It is cool, because a lot of the time it does work that way. Just depends on the type of girl you want.

Tons of gorgeous women go for guys based on their passion, and how they make them feel rather than money and success.

Look at musicians and other artists for example. They can be dirt poor living in a crappy studio apartment with no furniture.....but still pull some of the hottest chicks out there.

 

well, musicians and artists are something completely different. the post i quoted mentioned someone who does the best possible job of working at a restaurant; that guy is not going to have women gravitating toward him, at least not based on his passion for creating a great dining experience.

 

It takes a ton of experience with many different people in many different settings in several life phases to determine which type of persons will suit you. You meet, you talk, you do things, you may fuck, and then it could be over. Sometimes it'll last, or maybe lead to a marriage, and then be over. It could be a person with whom you rear children, and then be over. Then there are those that last forever, and also those that can't meet anyone.

People make mistakes in misjuding others. We think we know, then we don't know. One moment things are ok, and the next things are a disastor. Then we begin to doubt ourselves, or worse .... we doubt society.

What I see is that this is the nature of human behavior and interaction. With an infinite number of personalities, and traits, and characteristics, and combinations thereof, there is no formula. You learn, enjoy when you can, and try again.

 

True. Your average fry cook isn't going to get laid no matter how much passion he puts into those fry's. But I know a couple cooks who are overly passionate about their jobs. They cook for decently nice places, but where their passion counts is when they cook for people at home. They'll randomly have a dozen people over for a delicious meal worthy of royalty. A lot of the time it's how they try new ideas for the restaurant. Women are all over them and it has nothing to do with money or status.

 

I wil admitt I was more shallow in my younger years. Thinking a guy who made a lot of money could offer more securtiy etc, but I don't think its fair of the OP to use grand sweeping statements of "all women do this/think this/are this"

As I matured, so did my choices in partners...my desires became less about financial security and more about emotional security. And the man I chose to marry makes less money than me but he makes me feel more loved than any other person and can make me laugh like no other.

One thing I never wanted in a partner though, then or now, is someone who is addicted to video gaming.

 

If a man would pass up being beside a woman like me and would rather play a game, then all I can say is that " I guess I want have to worry about you missing me when I am gone" .....I love technology just as good as the next person, but when it causes problems with my sex life then that is the final straw because you have stepped out of bounds with that. Just sayin

 

At the most basic instincts, women seek out men who they think can provide for them and take care of them, men seek out women who are young and beautiful so that the human race continues to procreate and survive. It's just human nature. I don't mean to be crude, even though that's probably how it's coming across, but that's just the way it is. Of course this is a very big generalization.

I've also noticed though that it depends on where you live. I've lived all over the Eastern seaboard and women are more stuck up in certain places.