An interesting take on life

Discussion in 'Philosophy and Religion' started by skinny.jeans, Dec 31, 2012.

  1. skinny.jeans

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  2. Tyrsonswood

    Tyrsonswood Senior Moment Lifetime Supporter

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    Sort of.... Maybe everyone is real and I'm not.
     
  3. Maelstrom

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    Perhaps you should write a book. It seems you have an imagination.
     
  4. desert-rat

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    A few years ago I read this book tittled astral worlds . It talked about places in the astral where people that had passed on ( dead ) that lived in a kind of dinaial ( not faceing reality ) . They would recreate the kind of life they had while alive . Banks , schools , shopping malls , apt.complex.s ect. So maby we are all dead and just not ready to face it , or not . http://www.amazon.com/Astral-World-S-Panchadasi/dp/0852431538/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1357008192&sr=8-1&keywords=astral+worlds"]Astral World: S Panchadasi: 9780852431535: Amazon.com: Books desert rat
     
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    I have thought that. Dreams are an example of it. You create everything specific to yourself in a dream. In reality tho others have memories of things that include, and are shared by others. So here its different, but a thought worth the discussion I think.
     
  6. FlyingFly

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    What does this even mean?

    No one will ever know.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_in_a_vat

    Maybe humans are just an experiment?

    There is thick line between philosophy and mental condition. Don't start killing people just because you think they are not real.

    Yeah, but I don't think it is a case.
    Why would I create such a fucked up reality?
    1) We are not tools therefore we can't measure time precisely.
    2) Different metabolism. Young children have faster metabolism therefore time seems to pass slower for them.
    3) If we do something interesting then we don't focus on time, therefore there might be feeling that it passes faster.

    or delusional
     
  7. desert-rat

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    Some think that we are just left over energy that got sucked in to a black hole . That we are just the consciousness left over after being sucked in to a black hole . Us , our lives , the phyical universe are creations of our minds, our left over consciousness . The only thing that any of can prove are are our thoughts and feelings . desert rat
     
  8. MeAgain

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    In the West, this is called Solipsism:
     
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    Yes, solipsism could be true. Kant taught us long ago that we're at the mercy of faulty perceptions when it comes to knowing external reality. Professor Bostrom of Oxford seriously believes that we might be in some kind of Matrix-like computer simulation run by robots, aliens, deceased ancestors, etc. This would mean that when we participate in discussions like this on Hip Forums, we might be talking to ourselves, and answering--a sure sign of insanity! What to do? We could go down the rabbit hole and end up in straight jackets or in faculty positions at Oxford. Or we could resort to what Santayana calls "animal faith"--a willingness to assume that our senses are putting us in touch with an external reality, however distorted it might be. Atheists might blanch at the five-letter F-word, but some minimal amount of faith seems to be necessary to enable us to get on with our lives.
     
  11. tzk100

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    How about this one. Athiest. See how happier you'll feel.
     
  12. bird_migration

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    Yes, I thought about it before and no, it does not explain anything.

    Time is nothing more than the evergoing change we notice all around us. We named it time and we experience it different because sometimes our minds are occupied with other things, which makes us temporarily forget about time.

    Is what we see and experience 'real'? Depends what you consider real. An empirical reality on a physical level is completely different than a reasoned reality on a metaphysical level. I know this is fundamentally wrong, but just giving an example.
     
  13. themnax

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    WHAT we see and experience, we do so in our own mind.
    when we stub our toe in the dark in the middle of the night, the fact that what we think we ran into might not be what we though it was, does nothing to make our toe stop hurting.

    or to put it another way, i don't care if that dust cloud coming down the road toward me is an elephant, a railroad train, or just a sand storm, i'm not going to remain standing in front of it.
    if that means someone is going to laugh at me for getting out of the way of an illusion, they're welcome to laugh, if they should happen to still be alive to do so.

    like bird said: "yes, i've thought about it; and no, it doesn't explain anything"
     
  14. SairaxxBolumite

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    I feel like this quite often, but time speeds up for me twice as fast each year, Im almost 24 and time is starting to mean nothing to me.
     
  15. Hari

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    But we do.... in our own reality. The dreams that we experience in the waking state are exactly real and vibrant as any experience while we are dreaming. Its is a fact that while we dream, we don't know or even notice that we are asleep, and we keep going on thinking that all we are experiencing an external world, and that the "people" we talk to and interact with, are there with you communicating.

    Is there a test or a lesson or even a mission we must accomplish?
    I believe that we are here to understand the nature of reality in its true essence, and eventually become illuminated to the fact that we indeed are Gods, and at present our mission is to awaken to that. "Isn't it written in your law "ye are gods?"
     
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    I sometimes walking or riding, go into that area and dwell on it for a while. I never hold it long enough to recreate it, or delve deeper to see where its capable of taking me.

    When I was more simple such as my traveling days, it was easy to sometimes practice "Inquiring" which is asking yourself :"Who am I?" and become briefly as one who like just landed in a very unfamiliar place where everything is strange, and yet nothing has changed.
     
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    Holographic universe - we're "real" - but the world we experience is a projection.
     
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    We are each our own deity :sunny:
     
  19. jaredfelix

    jaredfelix Namaste ॐ

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NRsuEDseFg"]Spirit Science 8 - Meditation - YouTube
     
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    I see flyingfly mentioned the Brain in a Vat thought experiments. I find it interesting that several people have claimed that this line of reasoning doesn't explain anything. I always thought that the whole point Skeptical Arguments such as the Brain in a Vat or the "Matrix" was not that it had any sort of explanatory power, but rather, that we simply were unable to disprove such hypotheses. Lacking such proof, I am unable to ascertain whether or I actually "know" (that is knowledge as defined as a true, justified, belief) anything about the external world. Solipsism probably is different though. I think there it probably is supposed to have some sort of explanatory power, but I always just thought that it rode on the coattails of skepticism. One can't really prove solipsism because there will always be an alternative defeating hypothesis that can't be disproved, namely, that the world as we experience it is real.
     

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