One Bad Trip is One Too Many! How should I best spread awareness?

Fake drugs. Fake drugs everywhere in the cities. I ask you, long time members of the RC community, what have we done?

I say One Bad Trip is One too Many!

Did you know that 100ml high conc. H2SO4 + 5mL 40% CH2O = a testing kit that covers the vast majority of street drugs?

I have personally introduced two people to beautiful psychedelics, only to later discover I had given them (something that had been given to me usually by a dj) a very unchill compound or a compound not meant to be dosed in the way it was advertised. Imagine if your first trip had been a bad one. How different would your life have been?

I find these people disgusting, because they're willing to ruin someone's whole week and put their minds completely out of whack just to save 2.50$/pill. I know these people aren't doing it for the money. I know this because I know the people myself. These are the type of people who, though they may give respect to those they consider worthy, see the everyone else --the majority of the rave scene-- as no more than pawns to play with. I know they think its a joke and I'd like to play a joke on them by doing whatever I can to uncover this cancer and spread awareness.

Words cannot describe how saddening this is for me. I have watched my scene whither and die and I have watched too many young (like fucking 14!) kids get stuck in cycles they don't even understand, based on chemical lies. It hurts me and I don't see anyone doing shit all and I want to help.
My question for you is how should I best spread awareness within the rave scene in an acceptable way?

I am planning to buy a large order of testing kits and distribute them freely. Hopefully, we can discredit the people doing this enough that we can at least fight off the cancer for a little while. How do you guys think I best go about doing this?

also: We should distribute pictures of blotters we know are nbomes. Many of us RC nerds buy these blotters for personal consumption, knowing they're nbome, but imagine the shit trip of all these poor people who have to discover they're not on acid when they thought they were gonna be on acid. Fuck this shit.

 

I lay the honus squarely on my shoulders if I dose others. This means that if testing kits are not available, that I bio assay a supposed compound myself before giving it to anyone else. P.L.U.R.Responsibility

Your idea of distributing testing kits sounds beneficial and will help those make sure they get what they are seeking or at least avoid drugs being missold as something its not. The attempt to stop all bad trips sounds a bit overly ambitious tho.

 

Changes must happen. On the macro level, legalization. On the micro level, addressing unscrupulous dealers, spreading knowledge to users. Do what you can with who you can, if you can steer even one person away from a falsely advertized substance then you've done well.

I really wouldn't bother trying to score psychedelics in the music scene anymore, I wouldn't have bothered 5 years ago when you still had a 50/50 chance of getting what you thought you were getting, but these days its like a 90% chance its NBOME "acid" or non-MDMA "ecstasy" . . . hell even MXE is being sold as "ketamine" . . .

consider the motivations of who you are buying from. If they are a dealer, making a buck, be very, very wary. And this is coming from someone who fulfilled that role himself a long time ago in a galaxy far far away. (swimmzy earned reputation for purity, quality and honesty, and it was hard to earn, and it NEEDS to be hard to earn).

 

I don't even understand how they pull this shit off. Have you ever railed 350mg of MXE? It's not fucking kosher. Not one bit.

 

http://bunkpolice.org/street-team/

 

Overly ambitious? No, I will strike down the bad trips. Strike them down with love!

in all seriousness, though, I think you would be extremely surprised at how easy to manipulate, this scene is. Free distribution of test kits, along with a couple key conversations with the right people can actually change the lives of many people. Thats just how plastic and malleable the rave scene is. Its something easy to change and I feel bad because I know that it is well-intentioned people like us who got the word out about RC's and where/how to get them.


What I need to figure out, though, is how best to present people with the testing kits. How do you make testing your drugs cool? I feel these people might not do it just to avoid self-harm (they're too used to it). They need it to be cool.

this is fucking phenomenal: http://bunkpolice.org/basic-test-kit/ Thanks dude ^^^.
this makes me want to study some chem.

 

Certain companies in the US used to set up booths at raves that would test Ecstasy pills but that's been banned for about a decade or so here, I'm not sure how that would work in your area but perhaps that is a model you can emulate or come up with some similar type of program.

Your ideas got me thinking of how I could potentially utilize some of these positive concepts within the rave scene here. However as I alluded to, I believe that testing kits in the US (or at least my state) are considered 'drug paraphenalia' at raves, I'm not sure I'd care to find out the repercussions of soliciting such things particularly at those raves with more established security companies and under covers. Also while I go to a fair amount of raves and have had some of the most profound, amazing, experiences of togetherness and communal gathering which I would like to foster, I also have seen the seedy and greedy elements of raves and tend to keep a distance as well.

 

Jeeezus...That's some mess. I hope you can help some people.

 

Agreed I went to a rave recently and was offered some molly at crazy prices. And I asked the dude if it was Methylone like everyone else got. And they were no its molly. They didnt seem very convincing so I passed on the offer and not more then ten minutes later the same dude came back up to me and asked me about Methylone and he said thats what he thinks he has.. then proceeds to ask me if their is a difference between Molly and Methylone The dude had no idea But he did have the balls to sell shit that he had no idea what it was. Education and Testing are the best ways to prevent getting fake drugs. (their not fake drugs they fuck you up they are just not what was advertised and Have a wide range of different effects and duration times. Be safe folks.

 

That's like when the pope went to Africa and told everyone not to use condoms.

 

My understanding is the possession or use of testing reagents is not illegal in the states, merely the possession of possible illicit substances.
Not having a ref link handy at the moment, I'm certain this conference would answer any and all legal questions, and much more.

http://www.clubhealthsf2013.org/about/overview

 

^^ Possession of testing kits is not necessarily illegal in the US however as far as open testing goes at raves in the US, which is what the Op is discussing, it is essentially illegal. Some quick info I found, expanding on what I already said...

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A valiant effort to clean up Montreal's fake drugs scene. It's kind of a source city. Most of the E in Ontario comes from there and so much of it is fake. It's sad.

I remember back in the early 90's doing Montreal Mesc. Fake ass shit. It was PCP.
This trend has been going on a loooong time and it's tied in with the Quebec biker scene.

Just educate the buyers. That's all one can do.

 

Is it illegal to give away testing kits, written information, verbal communication without ever coming in contact with illegal substances?

 

^ Yup, rule #1, don't buy psychedelics from gangs. I also wouldn't trust anyone under 25 at LEAST, by default I see older heads know what's up and younger people just wanna get fucked up, don't care that much if they get ripped off on RCs, and they perpetuate the cycle, even start selling the "molly" or "acid" themselves for a quick buck to even less knowledgeable people.

God, I was talking to a teen once who said he LOVED shrooms, and I asked, "Have you ever tried 4-aco-dmt?", he looked at me blankly. I explained, "Its chemically very similar to the active chemical in mushrooms, 4-ho-dmt". He kept looking at me blankly. I continued, "you can hear the similarity in their chemical structure, how they both end in the letter DMT, it stands of dimethyl tryptamine-" he interrupted me, laughed in my face and said to me, "dude, why would I want to take something that has the word TRIP in it". He was serious. He meant "trip" like when someone freaks out and is "trippin" about something. I almost cried. That was when I realized I can't trust anyone under 25 (some exceptions) :rofl:

 

It's an interesting question to ponder. The reality of it, at least in the US raves (and if you're in Canada, hopefully you can find some useful strategy and approach to apply from my response) is that I can't imagine rave promoters, venue owners allowing a station to be set up because if it were to get busted they'd likely be held accountable as well.

Attempting to walk around at a rave and pass out pamphlets which necessarily entails on how to test for illicit drugs or trying it verbally would likely get you kicked out fairly quickly for the reasons above, also without any sort of established station set up, you're bound to interact with a dealer which could possibly lead to negative interactions. Unfortunately, sometimes dealers that may be passing off suspect drugs have a fair amount of clout in the scene as they may at other times have really quality drugs and just be getting what they can at the moment or they may be involved in another part of the scene like on a promotion team or something. Many variables to consider.

 

The term "mesc" has always meant PCP. I can just picture one of the many fat old biker guys I know, with a few young girls hanging off his arms asking you if you want some mesc. They don't even know what a cactus is. For them mesc, has always been PCP. I think it's just a terminology problem here and not a fake drugs one. They don't even know what mescaline HCL is lol.

And yeah, I think I can make a real difference. I have enough connection to enough people here that I can really weed out some of these scammers.

 

Walking around prosthelytizing about most anything doesn't work.

Kicking back quietly, letting people come to information tends to work better.

At Burning Man there was a harm reduction camp that was very low key and very effective.

http://www.maps.org/news-letters/v22n3/v22n3_26-27.pdf

 

Man, that is just horrible. I myself am only 18, and consider myself quite educated on drugs. I see people around me some what like how you described that one teen you talked too. It's truly unfortunate. I myself have conducted 'research' on a few RC's I have ordered from valid vendors such as 25i-NBOMe, and MXE. I personally could never bring myself to sell, nonetheless give someone a hit of 25i, and tell them it was acid. The closest I would ever be able to say is "It's like acid, but trust me, you only need like a hit (at 1000ug complexed), keep it between your gum and cheek for at least 30 minutes, and dont swallow any of the saliva during that time". I personally am very weary to purchase anything off the kids my age like acid, or molly. I couldn't trust them unless it were Mushrooms or something easily distinguishable by eye like that. It's truly unfortunate to have people in this world so greedy and non-caring amongst us kindhearted, intellectual drug users. Honestly, with all the molly going around my town, id' like to get a good amount of high purity MDMA (via a respectable vendor) and distribute it amongst some people in my area just to see what their reaction is. Honestly, I havn't touched any MDMA in my area in a good while due to a low dose of anti-depressants iv been on for a while (been off them for 2 weeks now though doing good) It would be an interesting 'study' of sorts. Anywho, I commend this thread. And being on MXE, reading this thread has really opened my eye.

 

I had a dream the other night in which I was visiting my friend upstate and he was like hit this and I did and I started getting really smooth OEVs and I was like ohh thats some really nice DMT, and he corrected me saying 'its DMB-49'. I had a good laugh over that.