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  1. RevoMystic

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    Kerry Preparing Grounds to Unconcede


    If you haven't been following John Kerry closely, get ready to hear of
    surprising developments. The vote-defrauded, potential
    president-in-waiting
    has just indicated through his lawyer that the validity of George
    Bush's
    reelection is no longer a given. Kerry Preparing Grounds to Unconcede
    Election Challenge likely on Jan 6th

    BreakForNews.com, 24th Dec, 2004 23:00ET
    by Fintan Dunne, Editor EXCLUSIVE

    If you haven't been following John Kerry closely, get ready to hear of
    surprising developments. The vote-defrauded, potential
    president-in-waiting
    has just indicated through his lawyer that the validity of George
    Bush's
    reelection is no longer a given.

    On 23 December, 2004 Kerry's lawyer confirmed to MSNBC's 'Countdown'
    that
    John Kerry will be seeking (likely on Monday 27 Dec.) to expedite court
    proceedings and secure evidence in an ongoing recount suit by the Green
    and
    Libertarian parties. That might sound like just another "count every
    vote"
    exercise by the Kerry campaign, were it not for two important details.
    Kerry's court filing will conjoin him to existing allegations that
    Triad
    Systems, a Republican-linked supplier of voting machines to around half
    of
    Ohio counties --"orchestrated" a covert campaign to thwart a legitimate
    recount in Ohio. If the allegation proves well founded, it could
    invalidate
    the Ohio recount and eventually even hand the presidency to John Kerry.
    Which probably explains the second critical detail: a quiet, on the
    record
    bombshell statement to 'Countdown' by Daniel Hoffheimer, the Cincinnati
    lawyer representing the Kerry campaign in Ohio.
    Previously, the Kerry Campaign's intent in Ohio seemed to be merely an
    exercise of American civic spiritedness.
    Two weeks ago, when Kerry wrote to Ohio's 88 county boards of election
    asking to visually inspect some ballots, Donald McTigue, the lawyer
    handling
    the recount for the Kerry campaign said: "We're trying to increase the
    transparency of the election process."
    In early December, when the Kerry Campaign joined a suit by Green and
    Libertarian party candidates seeking a recount in Delaware County,
    Daniel
    Hoffheimer said Kerry wasn't disputing President Bush's victory in
    Ohio. The
    aim was to make sure any recount was "done accurately and completely,"
    Hoffheimer said.
    Now MSNBC 'Countdown' reports the same Hoffheimer, in comments on their
    imminent filing in the Ohio recount, concluding their call for a
    scrupulous
    recount with this caveat:
    "...Only then can the integrity of the entire electoral process and the
    election of Bush/Cheney warrant the public trust."
    That's the first time the Kerry Campaign has impugned the legitimacy of
    Bush's reelection.


    RECOUNT CHEAT SHEETS

    It's a signal move, likely driven by emerging evidence of suspicious
    activity by representatives of Triad Systems during the recount in
    Ohio.
    Evidence which has led a senior Democrat, ranking House Judiciary
    Cmtee.
    member, John Conyers Jr. to accuse Brett A. Rapp, the boss of Triad
    Systems
    of orchestrating a criminal conspiracy to pervert the outcome of the
    Ohio
    recount.
    The allegations first surfaced before an extraordinary Ohio hearing
    convened
    by Conyers on behalf of Democratic Minority members of the House
    Judiciary
    Committee. An affidavit filed by Sherole Eaton, Hocking County deputy
    director of elections, stated that a Triad representative had told her
    "how
    to post a 'cheat sheet' on the wall so the ...count would come out
    perfect
    and we wouldn't have to do a full hand recount of the county."
    That account has been corroborated by other officials and by extracts
    from a
    video documentary in which a Triad technician admits that the company
    was in
    possession of computer "backup" copies of the official election data.


    SIGNAL, THEN MANEUVER

    If the recount was fraudulent, does that have implications for the
    validity
    of the first count in Ohio? The Kerry campaign knows full well that it
    does.
    That's why their latest statement questions the "integrity" of the
    "entire"
    electoral process. And the election of Bush/Cheney.
    For Kerry, a fraudulent recount in Ohio could be an open door into to
    the
    Oval Office. Already, John Conyers is confident that a few U.S.
    Senators
    will join House members on January 6 to question the November 2
    election. On
    Thursday, the Chicago Tribune reported that in a conference call with
    journalists Jesse Jackson said that Kerry had conceded the presidential
    election "much too soon. Before all the facts were in."
    But don't expect Kerry to quickly rush to a microphone in order to
    unconcede. He doesn't have to. His unconcession will take effect by
    default.

    If the Ohio recount is shown fraudulent, the domino effect could carry
    him
    through that door without claiming victory or even unconceding.
    Simply by allowing Bush's claim on the Office of President to fall
    --piece
    by fraudulent piece. Nudging the dominoes to topple in the right way.
    Thus leaving Kerry, poised to step into office over the Bush debris.
     
  2. dhs

    dhs Senior Member

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    If there is fraud - I hope that it is exposed. Unfortunately, I doubt it will happen.
     
  3. crystalstarr

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    well this could get interesting
     
  4. miami musician

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    yes, it could... i want to see how this unfolds... and better brace for the republican big wigs to start shouting "sore losers"...
     
  5. homebudz

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    This is indeed interesting,to say the least.I personally feel there was voter fraud by the bush/cheney regime.Twice.I would love to see bush tossed out on his dumbass.Maybe he could find work at micky d's flipping grossburgers.LMAO.
     
  6. LickHERish

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    Actually Bush and his entire cabal should be investigated and thrown in prison for life for corruption, fraud, war crimes, crimes against humanity and treason. But I wont hold my breath waiting for such uniform application of justice on those who have denied it to so many for so long (with intent to go even further over the next four years).
     
  7. homebudz

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    I'd settle for public tar and feathering.Then take all of his families monies and distribute to those that lost people as a direct result of his greed.
     
  8. LickHERish

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    I concur with your call for the stripping of all financial assets, but not just from Bush Jr. Every last member of this cabal should be stripped of all assets in perpetuity and their progeny banned from ever holding public office (and thats merely the start).

    Yet still, this should merely be a facet of the larger judgement against them once found guilty of the aforementioned crimes in my post above. Its time our nation learned that our leaders are not above the "rule of law", especially when they themselves use it as a soundbite in their condemnations of those nations they wish to conquer or otherwise subvert.
     
  9. Eugene

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    I'd tell kerry to test all his food for Dioxin now.
    YUSHENKO!
     
  10. RevoMystic

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    But then this *might* blow up the conspiracy theorty that Kerry intentionally helped Bush get into office (or rather, conceded before he knew the official count as a favor to the Bush empire).
    If this is really a monumental thing here, it's due primarily (if not solely) to grassroots activism, as has always been the case throughout history.
     
  11. shaggie

    shaggie Senior Member

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    The way Kerry looks, it may be too late for that warning. :)
     
  12. Revenant Phantasm

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    what exactly are war crimes?
     
  13. Maggie Sugar

    Maggie Sugar Senior Member

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    A lot of actions are war crimes. Let's start with starting an unjust war under false pretenses and lies.
     
  14. RevoMystic

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    Ha, war crimes...that's like saying "McDonalds". It's all too common.
     
  15. Maggie Sugar

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    It doesn't make it untrue. Let's go on with the War Crimes by talking about Abu Ghraib Prison, Guantanamo Bay illegal detention center, killing at least 100,000 innocent Iraqis and not even bothering to keep track.
     
  16. mynameiskc

    mynameiskc way to go noogs!

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    i hope this doesn't just become one big fiasco.
     
  17. RevoMystic

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    Maggie, I was agreeing with you lol.

    Mynameiskc, fiasco? lol In 2000 the electoral process heaved its last breath. It's dead now, unless activists unite to revive it, and the way anarchists see it, that would be a futile attempt, for the short and long term.

    What should be done is to expose the fraud that took place in Ohio and other battleground states, force the corporate media to cover the intricacies of the story, with relentlessness...until it would make them look bad for *not covering it.

    Progressives (and esp. the mainstream) have to wake up to the idea that what separates normal complacent people from political activism is the mind-numbing misinformation by the government sponsored media. FOX, ABC, NBC, CBS, and to a lesser extent, CNN. Progressives generally understand this to some degree but don't focus nearly enough energy on it, with exceptions.

    It's the media, folks!
     
  18. homebudz

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    Too late,,,,,,it's already one.I call it,nam II.
     
  19. RevoMystic

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    you guys are both wrong, granted, I see the similarities you're talking about, but it's worse than anything we've ever seen since the American Indian genocide, and it's gonna keep on getting worse. What we're about to enter is something that's never happened before in our history. Brace yourselves....
     
  20. Eugene

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    You sure this is true, right? I mean this ain't one of those weathermen type things is it?
    I doubt kerry would want to go through with the entire thing even because even allowing all the allegations of voter fraud to be real, he would still have lost the popular election.
    As much as I don't like 43, he has more supporters willing to actually show up at the poles than kerry did...
     
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