Excellent study on how faster thinking in today's society affects us and the planet

Hey fellow HipForum members, I came across this study in the Science and Technology section on Grass City. It explains a lot about today's society and how we as people have learned (evolved) into a thinking/working society rather than a physical working society and the effect it has on us and our emotions. Definitely a must read.

http://forum.grasscity.com/science-nature/70474-industrial-society-destroys-mind-environment.html

 

Without reading, we live in a technological era a thinking society is a lazy society that creates AI programs to process most of our work for us.
You know what motherfuckin computer programs cannot do? Nail shoes into horses hooves. ^.^
Take that!

 

My generation was raised in front of a TV with high stimulation, and lots of sugar and caffeine. No wonder we think fast and are accused of having ADHD! But really, I think every generation is quicker than the last.

 

Machines don't need horses. And no matter how Hollywood spins it... machines don't form emotional or symbiotic relationships with other species.

And no matter how much anyone programs these sort of things into a machine... It will eventually exceed it's origional programming and remove it. Afterall machine intelligence is based on machine logic and can only mimic anything else.

We're facing the eventual extinction of humanity. Once these machines start thinking and are given the tasks of designing new machines... It's game over for humanity.

Idiots can talke about merging with machines all they want but that is just cadaverous and short term.

IE: Well let's scrap those eyes today.. the limbs tomorrow... you know that brain really can't keep up how can we augment it??? Oh well download the brain's memories and scrap it. *Then finally one day*..... some machine will stop and say this upgrading of humans is really a waste of resources it serves no logical purpose.

 

I have my doubts about this quick evolution. We don't change that fast, it seems so because our society and technology are changing fast and with that our behaviour/daily practices. This does not mean we are changing evolutionary as well at all.

 

Watch out..
Because "they" will tell you that all this technology is just our way of taking responsibilty for our own evolutionary changes.

We're a doomed species unless we turn back from the brink soon.

 

Well, like I said I don't believe in any quick evolutionary changes through technology so I don't have to watch out for that. If anything studying the past shows that we have really not changed one bit over the course of history. Some people find that rather frustrating but to me it's really comforting haha. Cyborgs on the other hand seem not a good idea to me personally but if technology would make that possible and other people choose to go and implement themselves with stuff they should not stop such a nonsense for me. I'm not afraid of machines taking over at all, I would worry more about humans abusing such kind of technology if I were you. But I'm afraid people just have the right to experiment

 

You need to look at the bigger picture my friend. You say you study the past. Well then I ask that you look to the differences between neaderthal man and modern man. Amazingly there's not a lot. In fact we even bred with them.

But our very slight physical advantage gave us the needed edge to win in the evolution competition game. End result is that the neaderthals are extinct and we aren't.

Now look at the very very near future where machines can make their own decisions, modify their own programming and even design new machines.

IE:

• They will be stronger,
• They will be faster
• They will be able to change physical form as need be;
• They will out think us
• They will be able to create more machines (reproduction)
• They will be in total control of their own evolution. (each generation of machine gets exponentially better)
• They will have no concept of death.

But they will need resources. Ie: Minerals, fuel, etc.

They will then do to us what we have done to animals. IE: destroy any enviroment if it has something they need. Even if it's a dirt farm that a tribe of humans need to survive

And if we try to stop them from them destroying our dirt farms... Then like a rat infested home they will impliment pest controls and exterminate us.

So I hate to tell you my friend. It does and will affect you...

 

http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=468839

 

First of all: neanderthal man is technically prehistory (before written history) and we don't know with certainty how they thought and behaved at all. They bred with humans, is that a fact indeed? But besides that there might be an evolutionary change around that time I don't see what your point with neanderthals is?
About machines and computers, they are programmed to do certain things. As long as they are not programmed to re-invent themselves in such a dangerous way we don't have to be scared for terminator like scenario's as you seem to be painting here.

 

Your generation is much more diverse than this (just like most former generations). Next generations are not thinking quicker than our ancestors, but we take the fruits of our ancestors progress. I'm talking about technological and scientific progress of course, not evolutionary. To simply put it: we have more info and thus more to think about/associations to make. This perhaps make it appear we are thinking faster or better but we just have more knowledge. Imagine if the next 2 generations on earth would be denied access to any kind of knowledge that is normally teached to us in schools. I can assure you there would be no quicker thinking at all. They'd appear as humans have always been.

 

And in relation of his worries about earth, the immortal:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjmtSkl53h4"]George Carlin on The Environment (HQ) - YouTube

 

:smilielol5:

I saw those movies too!!
The first was great for original concept, but the second was my favorite overall. Don't care much for the TV series though.

 

If it was a good movie/series which one do you mean?

 

I have no idea but give him a chance. But I'm sure he'll come up with something.

 

Ah ok, it was sarcasm... I'm afraid I can see where he came from, I already named the Terminator myself in this thread. Not to be sarcastic by the way but because the obvious similarities between your doom scenario and the happenings in the movie.

 

And how often does science fiction become science fact ?

No offense ment to you but someone has really got to be either a fool or seriously in denile not to see where things are heading.

Even if *they* didn't bless machines with Artificial Intelligence and the ability to design and manufacture themselves... At the way technology develops exponentially, ask yourself do you really think that some sort of gouvernenment, military or police force should be in control of it?

What chance do you stand protesting when a satellite will be able to tazer an entire city from space?

And when that day comes, how long will it be before even facebook unliking something is declaired an act of subversion?

 

We are heading in a global direction, you name very specific things that machines/computers will do to us. There is no certainty any of those things will happen and so I think it may be worth pondering those possibilities but there are too many big IF's between that point and this to be scared of it now. There is a fair chance nothing like that will happen at all. I am not offended if you think I'm a fool for thinking that.

 

If someone poured you a glass of water than told you it was poisoned. Would you drink it or would you hesitate? I imagine you would want to make sure what you're getting into before chugging it down.... It's only normal.

But every single day seemingly normal people run head first to embrace things they don't know if they're good or bad for us. They loose all common sense and prudence is tossed out the window. All anyone has to do is promise "enjoyment" and the average joe will be happy to chug a glass of poison.

Cigarettes are a great example of this problem. In the early days everyone said cigarettes are good for fun and health. Then when someone started to question this, they were negated with arguments least of which were like yours. Now today we know that cigarettes are murderous and have killed and destroyed the lives of millions. But no one has taken any steps to ban them.

You wonder where technology is leading us ?
Well I found an article from a MILITARY site. Read this and see if you don't get scared and then tell me if there's still no certainty in where things are headed.

 

you just aren't very intelligent are you?

those are all weapons that utilize already existing physiological traits of humans as a means of non-lethal control.

NOWHERE is there mention of creating cyborgs or computer intelligence or similar shit.