hey everybody hows it going. Ive run into a dead end and could really use some advice. Ive been taking buprenorphine in the form of subutex for about 18 months-most of that time being on 12mg and the rest at 8mg. recently i have been trying to get off of it but i have been having a hard time. for anybody who dosnt know, buprenorphine withdrawals are not as intense as something like heroin or high dose oxy. they do however last alot longer, in my experience at least 4 weeks. Because of the extremely long half life of the drug, ive found that the WDs dont even peak until at least a week after you stop taking it. The problem ive been having is that after 2-3 weeks of being in withdrawal im malnourished from not eating enough(on a bad day i might get down just a few hundred calories) and also sleep deprived. Usually at this point i start to feel worse (even if the WDs are slowly getting better) and i break down and have a relapse: usually back onto the buprenorphine but ive been desperate enough to take anything just to get relief for a day(a couple good meals and a full nights sleep). unfortunately this pushes me back on my detox schedule. i started detoxing about 6 weeks ago but because of these occasional slip-ups, havnt made much progress. Im running out of time and starting to get desperate. this week i did some research and bought an assortment of vitamins and supplements that are supposed to help the brain and body rebound from the effects of use and withdrawal. besides that ive pretty much done everything that i can think of to mitigate the effects of the withdrawal. If you have read to this point i thank you. now i ask for advice. if anyone who has experience with opiate withdrawal(especially long lasting detox from buprenorphine or methadone) has any suggestions please let me know. at this point i am open to anything. one thing ive been looking at is kratom. i know you can but concentrates online and make tea out of it. Ive also heard it has helped people who have kicked methadone but i would like to hear what the community here has to say. any and all suggestions are welcome. thank you. -Blitz
benzos for sleep gabapentin for the day and you'll be fine I got very lucky to find a doc who has given me a shit ton of each.
Hey Blitz, how are you brother. Hey, listen man, when you say you don't have much time what exactly are you referring to? I do believe that you are experiencing problems because you are attempting to jump from a DOSE TOO LARGE! Here is what I'd like to ask you to do. Starting immediately, drop to 4Mgs of Bupe. Do this for 1 week, at which time, you will drop to 2 MGs per day. if it is more comfortable for you to split your daily dose between 2 different times of the day, do it, its no big deal, plus I believe it'll be easier on you. It you find the drop to 2 MGs to be too much, drop to 3MGs instead. Do this for 2 weeks, then Drop to 2MGs. Trust me on this, you wont believe the relief you feel from 2MGs vice 8MG. Your system needs time to get away from so much BUPE. Trying to jump from 8MGs is for most people, next to impossible. They never reach the point where its completely gone from their system before they become desperate to get another taste. Once you are down to 2MGs for 2 weeks, then try to step off. When I stepped off, Inside 2MGs/day, I felt little to no W/D symptoms, a bit less energy, but i also had a script for Adderall so it took care of that. Also, which getting out from under SUBS, I took 1-2MGs of Xanax per day. Having never abused it b4, it worked wonders for anxiety. Brother, I'd be more than happy to help you get down to where it'll be much easier for you. Just hit me up here whenever you need to, Ill check in daily!! Good luck Bro, you'll do just fine!
i had 2 weeks to go from 12mg down to 0. then i went off it completely. im out of time for several reasons. first of all ive just about overstayed my welcome with my friends who are putting me up. second is that im out of subs so its cold turkey from here on out-unless i decide to go the kratom route. i see my doctor tomorrow but hes going to go down on my benzo script and hes not going to give me anything else opiate related. they are real eager to get you on subs but when your ready to quit they dont really have much of a plan. i think i am just more sensitive to bupe withdrawals than most people. for me its much harder to get of buprenorphine than oxy of heroin. with the aformentioned i can tough it out for a week and be ok. but with buprenorphine it just goes on for weeks and really drains me physically and emotionally, killing my will power. thats why i think i keep relapsing back onto the subs. i think that at this point im going to try to order some kratom. ive heard good things from people using it to get of bupe and methadone. if anyone can point me toward a reputable vendor or make any other recommendations please either reply here or PM me.
