Going from Atheist to Agnostic

Discussion in 'Agnosticism and Atheism' started by ThePoetSappho, Apr 22, 2013.

  1. Driftwood Gypsy

    Driftwood Gypsy Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    In my early teens I dabbled eclectically, but since then I've been a sworn, hardcore Atheist; until recently....
    Went on vacation for our honeymoon and had an amazing, mind expanding, enlightening time that really gave me perspective and made me look at things differently.
    Started smoking again, started yoga, quit coffee and became vegetarian.
    Been reading obsessively, having deep conversations, practicing yoga, writing, introspection....
    and I'm beginning to think; it's a little arrogant to think we see and know everything about our world and there's nothing left to discover.
    Kundalini Yoga coupled with healthy diet and weed has led to me beginning to question things.... or as my husband said, become "agnostic".
     
  2. guerillabedlam

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    I'm sure many atheists would agree with you.
     
  3. TopNotchStoner

    TopNotchStoner Georgia Homegrown

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    I'm an atheist, but I still acknowledge the fact that it's impossible to know if any gods exist. Based on a complete lack of evidence though, I'm 99.99% certain that no gods exist.

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  4. guerillabedlam

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    ^ That's a good chart, I was explaning my beliefs to a friend of mine once and he labelled me an agnostic atheist. I wasn't quite understanding the distinctions he was making.
     
  5. Driftwood Gypsy

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    I think I went from a Gnostic Atheist to an Agnostic Atheist/Eclectic...?
     
  6. TopNotchStoner

    TopNotchStoner Georgia Homegrown

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    I think most atheists would be classified as "agnostic atheists". I'm often very militant about my atheism, but it would be both illogical and arrogant to claim to be 100% certain about something that cannot be proven or disproven.
     
  7. Emanresu

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    I'm definitely an agnostic atheist. I think most atheists are, even if they are unaware of the term. I'm not sure I've ever met someone who claims to know that there certainly are no gods. I couldn't really put a percentage on how sure or unsure I am, but I currently entertain no beliefs in any god so I am an atheist, but I do not claim to know so I am also agnostic.
     
  8. SunLion

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    We can't prove there is no god anywhere in time / space. But it's simple to prove that there is no god as normally defined by humans.
     
  9. relaxxx

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    If I started taking a drug and found my mind leaning towards the mental illness of spirituality and religion...

    I'd change my prescription!

    Spirituality is a gateway delusion.
     
  10. Inca

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    Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
     
  11. That's cool that you're opening your mind a bit. Life truly is a mystery in the most profound of senses.

     
  12. Fairlight

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    I'm definitely agnostic.I don't believe in a bearded old man in the sky who will send us to hell for our sins if we don't repent and confess,but my experiences have led me to believe that there is something more out there,that there is more than meets the eye to this universe.
     
  13. Asmodean

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    I am religiously agnostic myself :biggrin:
     
  14. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    I suggest you get a copy of The Tao Te Ching, the link is a free on-line edition.

    Or check out some Alan Watts talks on YouTube.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMRrCYPxD0I"]The Real You - Alan Watts - YouTube

    (No religion is involved.)
     
  15. Karen_J

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    I don't fit that chart very well. As an "I don't give a shit" agnostic, I guess I might be at the bottom center of the chart, right on the black line. I accepted that I'm never going to know, and stopped worrying about it.
     
  16. Meliai

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    I believe in energy. I don't know where that puts me.
     
  17. Asmodean

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  18. Raga_Mala

    Raga_Mala Psychedelic Monk

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    Good for you Sappho.
     
  19. Emanresu

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    This is often true but not necessarily true. If we are talking about something for which it is likely that there would be evidence if it were true, then the absence of evidence can be interpreted as evidence of absence.
     
  20. relaxxx

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    That chart is bullshit, really. Knowledge does not need to be 100%. Scientific knowledge is a world of REASONABLE probabilities. Scientific knowledge is always subject to new information. Science is a process, not an absolute word such as religious text claim to be.

    There is NO REASONABLE probability for the existence of God. Every day the scientific world adds discoveries and knowledge that contradict any and all definitions of God and supernatural spirits. Every day the probability of God gets smaller and smaller. The known empirical universe is not compatible with fantasies of a divine consciousness. Religious/spiritual claims are constantly being disproven, exposed as fraudulent or explained scientifically.

    Can I be 100% certain? No. Can I be 99.9999% certain? Sure. Science, real science, not the bullshit, twisted, clearly flawed, pseudo science that the religious hide behind... REAL credible, verifiable science puts God very far beyond any REASONABLE probability.

    You theists and spiritualistically inclined post all over this atheist forum and pat yourselves on the back for being "open minded". So open minded you've got yourselves convinced that completely UNREASONABLE probabilities are somehow within your own fabricated realms of what you believe is actually reasonably possible. That's being open minded?

    "It doesn't fit empirical knowledge, but I just have this FEELING that God's possible, I just FEEL it... you know..."

    "I know they say the odds of winning are 10 million to one, but i just got this FEELING I'm going to win this jackpot... It FEELS like 50/50 even..."

    Unreasonable...
    Delusional...
     

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