Don´t remain tied, Darwin has lied

Dang it - quit making me laugh! I have to go to lunch and pretend to do some work around here.

 

So... Your Laughing so hard you can barely work..

Im not even going to bother trying to explain why BlackGuard's 'Joke' makes zero sense as a Comedy Object...

Anyyyway.. There is a whole lot of accusation and conjecture.. but a guy named Wallace seemed very bitter about Darwin stealing his ideas.

Since it turned out to be a stupid and unworkable 'idea' - I dont think Wallace should be to worried.
Darwin will go down in history as being entirely wrong about Natural Selection, even though a later group of Evolutionists will give him a 'nod' by dubbing themselves 'Neo Darwinists'.

 

Bakker, Swaggart, Angely, Falwell et al.......these deviant sociopaths are the immoral shysters whom my joke alludes to.....

now you're a prophet? I predict that you are incorrect, and Darwin will ever be regarded as an important figure in the advancement of our scientific knowledge.

 

So the comedy principle goes like this?:

You suggest Darwin is admirable and original.

I suggest 'some' of his contemporaries accused him of plagiarising.

Your 'punchline' is "Ya.. ok.. and So were some shysters!"

WTF?

Anyyyyway...

Jerry Falwell has never be charged or accused of any wrong-doing.
I have never even heard anyone complain about Falwells policies, fund-raising etc?

Im no Prophet on Darwins fate.. that is already sealed.
He suggested that Natural Selection was the mechanism by which Evolution could have happened.
He was wrong.
He still is wrong.

To Darwins credit - HE HIMSELF STATED that if Natural Selection could not be proved then his theory fell apart.
HE HIMSELF suggested that the fossil record needed to find inbetweens (half morphed animals) or HE HIMSELF would abandon all hope for his thoery.

Hilariously (and this IS a funny joke) YOU call Darwin a hero where DARWIN ABANDONS HIS OWN THEORY.

THAT is funny!

 

it is so awkward trying to explain humor, so I will just let it go.....it was intended to be funny and it made her laugh, therefore, your inability to connect the dots is irrelevent to me.
the myth that he abandoned it was a lie made up by a christian .

that big boob, Falwell preaches hate and violence. nuff sed.

just cuz you amazingly missed that, does not mean it does not exist.
You cant catch everything.

 

Darwin made quite a few statements which he supposed what would make or break his theory:

"Why then is not every geological formation and every stratum full of such intermediate links? Geology assuredly does not reveal any such finely-graduated organic chain; and this, perhaps, is the most obvious and serious objection which can be urged against the theory."

The Origin of Species (1859) in Chapter 10, On the imperfection of the geologic record.

Now keep in mind Darwin was aware there were just a few fossils found so far (at his time) and the future might surely find these gradual changes.
135 years later...

NO.

But does BlackGuard still admire Darwin.. even where DARWIN asks his theory being given up on?
YES.

Is this because BlackGuard is a little silly in the noggin.
YES.

Now speaking of Jerry Falwell..
Believe me.. I wouldnt cross the street to take in a Jerry Fallwell Service and Im not a big fan of his 'style'.
Having said that, You cant just throw him in with Swaggarts and Bakers just because you hate him and want to tar him with the same brush.

Never heard Falwell 'Preach' hate or violence?

Could you give me some example of Falwell preaching hate or violence (maybe there is some?)

What was he doing .. calling people he disliked 'Big Boobs' or naming off criminals and sneaking their name into it the mix so it 'sounds like' they were cons too?

 

Brocktroon

Are you able to make a statement of your beliefs without slagging off another..?
Is the stabillity of you beliefs based on your percieved lack of foundation of others thoughrs...
Or the strength of your own 'system of belief'.?

Occam bases his beliefs TOTALLY on his lifes work of building a system of understanding that results in no contradiction to observed reality.
It relies NOT on the errors of others..
Thus occam NEVER calls another a 'halfwit' or 'silly in the noggin'...

THAT is purely the realm of those of EGO.
In occams experience...Those that belittle HAVE NO SYSTEM BUT EGO AND DESIRE.


Occam

 

Brocktoon explained to me that he does not believe in Ego.

 

Occam,

All Three:

I have an Objective Faith based on objective evidence, which demonstrate proof 'beyond a reasonable doubt'.
Also
In addition to that
BlackGuard has a foundationless belief system becasue its based on weak evidence and poor (or non-existant) rationale
In addition to
at the same time
also
BlackGuard is a half-wit

Worth mentioning the complete and utter hypocrisy from you Occam.
Just one post earlier.. BlackGuard (your defendant) blatantly and without justification slagged Jerry Falwell (actually accused him of crimes)..
.. and in a moment of unbridled 'Half Witisism' - BlackGuard 'DEFENDED' his Slagging of Fallwell by calling him a BOOB.

Where were you Occam?

As Thumbotico noted - I dont accept the concept of an 'ego'.

 

Brocktroon

1.You are by definition a subjective being. Incapable of having objective evidence.[beyond 'gogito ergo'] You may think your mind a god...
But only in your own mind.

2. Ah ... YOUR TRUE COLOURS
You STATE...Blackguaed is a halfwit.
What blackguard is to occam is a reasonable thinking mind.
One ABLE to ADAPT through evolution to NEW Ideas.
Through reason unsullied by ego.

If blackhuard .. screwed the pooch on jerry falwell.
What has that to do with occam?
Blackguard can be wrong..and if he is a rational being...
HE EXPECTS TO BE WRONG MOST OF THE TIME.
As does occam

Of course you do not accept ego..For it is YOU.
EGO cannot be wrong..as you cannot...so what are you?

Occam and friends such as blackguard and hikaru
CAN be wrong...and admit it...
That IS THE STRENGTH IF REASON.

The power of reason. A power 'acceptance or faith' does not have.
Is. That when wrong. There is an alternative to blind acceptance or desire.
That thing is the Computer you look at right now.
A product not of faith. Or ego.

Reason
And the methodology of reason is 'understand structure first'..
Dont jump the gun to a stupid selfserving position of understanding based in desire to believe some fools version of the life of christ.

Occam gives a shit about you.
But it seems you only give a shit about bring right.
Ego


Occam

 

This does not surprise Brocktoon

although
I would have guessed BlackGuard would be the one 'looking up' to you Occam.
Sadly.. looking 'Up' to you.


Im still trying to figure out why I dont get awarded Occam points for being a 'Reasonable' being when im 'Wrong'

Yet..

BlackyGVIII gets validated for being 'Wrong' most of the time?

It hardly seems fair?

Is that 'Reasonable' to you?

 

Brocktroon

Dont put the 'looking up to shit' on occam. That is devisive stategy.
Blackguard is in all ways an absolute equal to occam.
EInstien is also such. As is jesus.
As is every other human being including YOU.

There are no 'occam points' . That is something you have made to result in a dueling of egos. You WANT 'occam points'
But you dont get any...why..BECAUSE THERE ARE NO OCCAM POINTS TO START WITH
Occam has spent decades reducing his ego to what it is now...
And it knows that you are correct...
You speak truth
You are god.

To occam you are but another perspective

Occam

 

better a half wit than witless
Falwell, teaches hate, and promotes bigotry constantly, maybe not criminal, but hateful, at the very least.
boob was my very pc compromise. Fascist hatemongering conman, is closer to my real feelings.
You may not accept the concept of an ego, cuz you have such a big one you wont allow it.

I have more foundation in my wild guesses than you have in your 'facts'
my beliefs are based on firmer foundations than your dogma by a margin that is so great, I cant see you in my mirror.

 

Occam and I occasionally see things differently....that is healthy.
Brocktoon and I near always do, and he consistently misquotes me, that is ego. If Brocktoon feels I am in error, I defer, he is right, I am wrong, okay?
I only have a few stragglers left in my list of those I still cannot accept as equals, and they are those I would like to see face the gallows and be gone from this life.
Serial killers, rapists, and molesters.
The conviction of more than one offense above pushes them beyond my self admitted limit in ability to grant them forgiveness. Still working on it, and hope to feel in my heart that I would not give it my best shot to take them out myself, if given the opportunity. Multiple offenders are very unlikely to be innocent and wrongly offed.
Still, I desire a world without jails, where all are helped and all are loving to each other, without needing to attempt to convince them that it is us or them, when the option of choosing that we are both right is by no means unreasonable.

 

So Jerry Fallwell is an equal with you guys
Occam is equal to Jesus
But St.Paul is a Liar and Scoffer because (for seemingly no objective reason) some obscure scholar simple 'speculated' it was so - based on a fragment of parchment.

Im willing to bet you want to believe that all religions are 'equal' except one?

Crazy world you folks live in

 

Brocktroon

Yes...occam stands as a human being...a self aware conscious being.
In every sense an equal to any other human being. Any self aware being, and any god.

If he is not such an equal..WHO SAYS HE IS NOT?
YOUR GOD...?
By what right? POWER to send occam to hell?
Thats a dictatorship ..no?

Yes , all religions are equall...no exceptions. They all say the same thing.
That humanity is a 'thing made' like a condom or a toaster.
Occam holds humanity as a more than just a whim of a god.
A god we created to answer questions we could not...with the coverall
of 'god made us'. [he must be right]

This is a crazy world we live in...WE made it that way.. Through lack of reason.

Occam

 

crazy, but at least not in denial.
Occam aspires to learn new ways of viewing the craziness.
You retired your mind long ago, and took the easy road, Jesus and God, as Christian men see them, is all that. done. ahhhhhhhh no more pesky thinking required.

 

Correction.

You Twizzlers live life in an intellectual hot-tub .. foaming up any and all ideas, happy to dismiss them, play with them and disregard any signifigance.

"We are 'Free Thinkers'" ...

Well great.. yep.. just 'moralise' at your whimsy and 'speculate' when it suits your fancy. There is nothing to prove out, nothing to require conclusions or even strenuous comtemplation.... Just fancy and vasilating conjecture.

Now try and come face to face with a real person and a challenge for all humanity.
Mysterious teachings which CAN be unlocked but require REAL action and sometimes terrifying comtemplations.
Real evidence that demands a verdict.

But noooo.. just sit about and imagin-wonder about what opinions and 'cool ideas' and 'shit that makes you go hmmmm'.
Ya thats 'Free Thinking' all right.

 

I disagree with you across the board. not a single point you make contains a useful point for me to use when forming my whimsical, thoughtles opinions.
I'd say that I moralise about as much as you express modesty, respect, and supportive acceptance of the spiritual validity of opposing faiths.
terrifying? Not to me.
Since it is demanded of me, here is my verdict.....we see things differently.
I don't demand, require, or even want your approval or reply, Brocktoon.

 

i read up to page 13 and i just had to stop. its really late and im tired so this all wont make perfect sense.

Why does one preech to agnostics and atheists that they are wrong?

what justifies this?

From what i read, its one person claiming that one persons theory is false and they are justifying it with their own beliefs.

we all have our own beliefs. no two people share the same beliefs because no two people are identical in every way. i dont want to get into it but religion is a way of life. its too late to explain this rationally hehe. thats my theory, my belief. you can say that it is wrong but you cannot proove it wrong with any evidence.

i see people so sure of their religions, for instance islam. islam came from middle east. but what happened in the west? north american indians/native americans. they had their beliefs. each tribe had seperate beliefs. many times they had gods for what they didnt understand. when they were shown that it rained because of the water cycle they no longer believed in a rain god or a cloud god or whatever they believed in. im trying to say that we have our theories for what hasnt been prooven. the reason for our existance will always have many theories.

ive lost what i was trying to say because of the tv haha. divorce court will really make you loose your train of thought when its in the backround. sorry.

ill continue on this later.