If the U.S Government attacks Iran..

Discussion in 'Politics' started by StpLSD25, May 26, 2013.

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  1. roamy

    roamy Senior Member

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    :iagree:
     
    roamy, May 27, 2013
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  3. StpLSD25

    StpLSD25 Senior Member

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    I've been more of a taxpayer than most my age. Because I'm single, the government takes a lot of my paycheck toward taxes. Plus, as far as actual "Infrastructure" goes, the government just uses the "crumbling walls and bridges" to steal more of that $ from us. I'd put more faith in corporations to make safe roads on which you can safely go 100+ Mph because they make sure their roads are safe, and minimal accidents take place. The government spends to much, and accomplishes very very little in this, and everything else it gets involved in. Health Insurance, College Tuition etc. when the government has gotten involved, the price goes up, and the quality of care has gone down. That's why the Liberal ideology is essentially flawed imho.
     
    StpLSD25, May 27, 2013
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  5. Lisales

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    I heard the whole "Israel should be destroyed" comment was mistranslated and actually meant "Israel shouldn't exist".
     
    Lisales, Jun 9, 2013
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  7. odonII

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  9. Sig

    Sig Senior Member

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    Symbolically renounce? Seems a bit childish and, frankly, a bit cowardly. Honestly, given the choice between Israel and Iran, I'd go with Israel every time.
     
    Sig, Jun 9, 2013
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  11. Sig

    Sig Senior Member

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    I hope we do just to piss StpLSD off and make him put his money where his mouth is.
     
    Sig, Jun 9, 2013
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  13. McFuddy

    McFuddy Visitor

    LOL. That would be entertaining. Not sure if the ends would justify the means but at least we might get a good chuckle out of a bad situation.
     
    McFuddy, Jun 9, 2013
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  15. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Are you not going to file your taxes or just not pay.
    I say make the biggest statement you can and not file at all, that'll really piss them off and get your message across
     
    MeAgain, Jun 9, 2013
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  17. Summerhill

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    Theres a report in one of tomorrows UK newspapers that Iran plans to send 4000 troops into Syria to fight on the side of Assads forces. If the West follows Obamas proposed lead we could have another proxy war. All it takes is for another missile attack on Israel. West needs to stay out of this.
     
    Summerhill, Jun 15, 2013
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  21. Piney

    Piney Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Change in Iran is not about the Geo-strategic aims of the Anglo/American NATO bloc. Its about Freedom and Decency for the peoples of Iran, who are suffering under an un-elected theocracy.

    In a place where civilization was invented, they deserve freedom of the press, speech, assembly, multi-party elections.
     
    Piney, Jun 15, 2013
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  23. StpLSD25

    StpLSD25 Senior Member

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    you have no idea what you're talking about! Murdering civilains is not helping Iran at all! Besides, they are under a legitimate government! Unlike ours!


    Our government is constantly taking away these freedoms! and you think they're bringing "democracy" overseas? That's a total joke! YEAH WE DO deserve freedom of speech, free elections etc etc. but that dream is dead...
     
    StpLSD25, Jun 16, 2013
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  25. Lisales

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    I love when they say they intervene to instill "democracy". If they seriously are on some kind of democratic crusade, why not liberate Cuba? It's like 90 miles from Florida, very close. I mean, USA is the only country that brags about democracy and freedom, while supporting dictators at the same time.

    Google "US backed dictators" if you want some fun info. They can drop the whole democracy bullshit.
     
    Lisales, Jun 16, 2013
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  27. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    The Iranian government is a legitimate government and the government of the United States is not?
    Where do you get your information? I listed just a few of the highlights of the Iranian system below....read them and please tell me how their system is superior to ours.

    The Iranian Government
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    The Supreme Leader:The most powerful political office in the Islamic Republic is that of the Supreme Leader, of which there have been two: the founder of the Republic, Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, and his successor, Ali Khamenei.
    Historically the Supreme Leader has remained aloof from election politics. However, in the 2009 election, some of the pronouncements by Ali Khamenei were perceived by many to favor the incumbent candidate.
    The Leader appoints the heads of many powerful posts - the commanders of the armed forces, the director of the national radio and television network, the heads of the major religious foundations, the prayer leaders in city mosques, and the members of national security councils dealing with defence and foreign affairs. He also appoints the chief judge, the chief prosecutor, special tribunals and, with the help of the chief judge, half of the 12 jurists of the Guardian Council – the powerful body that decides both what bills may become law and who may run for president or parliament.[10] Also according to Iranian constitution the Supreme Leader asserts the authority of the president. He can veto the laws made by the parliament and traditionally he permits for presidential candidates to proclaim their candidacy

    The Guardian Council of the Constitution:
    The Iranian constitution calls for the council to be composed of six Islamic faqihs (expert in Islamic Law), "conscious of the present needs and the issues of the day" to be selected by the Supreme Leader of Iran, and six jurists, "specializing in different areas of law, to be elected by the Majlis (the Iranian Parliament) from among the Muslim jurists nominated by the Head of the Judicial Power,"[2] (who, in turn, is also appointed by the supreme leader).[3]

    The Council has played a central role in allowing only one interpretation of Islamic values to inform Iranian law, as it consistently disqualifies reform-minded candidates—including the most well-known candidates—from running for office, and vetoes laws passed by the popularly elected Majlis.[7][8

    The Army of the Guardians of the Islamic Revolution:
    Whereas the regular military (artesh) defends Iran's borders and maintains internal order, according to the Iranian constitution, the Revolutionary Guard (pasdaran) is intended to protect the country's Islamic system.[4]
    Since its origin as an ideologically driven militia,[9] the Army of the Guardians of the Islamic Revolution has taken an ever more assertive role in virtually every aspect of Iranian society. Its expanded social, political, military, and economic role under President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's administration – especially during the 2009 presidential election and post-election suppression of protest — has led many analysts to argue that its political power has surpassed even that of the Shiite clerical system.[7][10] [11] [12]

    The Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting:
    According to Article 175 of the Iranian constitution,

    1. The freedom of expression and dissemination of thoughts in the Radio and Television of the Islamic Republic of Iran must be guaranteed in keeping with the Islamic criteria and the best interests of the country.
    2. The appointment and dismissal of the head of the Radio and Television of the Islamic Republic of Iran rests with the Leader. A council consisting of two representatives each of the President, the head of the judiciary branch, and the Islamic Consultative Assembly, the Iranian parliament shall supervise the functioning of this organization.
    3. The policies and the manner of managing the organization and its supervision will be determined by law.
    The constitution further specifies that the director of the organization is chosen directly by the Supreme Leader for five years, and the head of the judiciary branch, the president, the Islamic Consultative Assembly oversee the organization.[2]


    I could go on but I got tired of looking at this stuff. Italics are mine BTW.
     
    MeAgain, Jun 16, 2013
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  29. StpLSD25

    StpLSD25 Senior Member

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    How can I even take you seriously? Obama Suppresses Protests too! and if you can't admit that, then you and I don't see eye to eye.

    Not to mention he has killed people for their parents committing "speech crimes," if I sat here and named off everything Obama has done just in these past 8 years, Ahmadinejad would look like a saint in comparison. Obama is a VERY evil corrupt man, who uses the same fear tactics as Bush. (and you too.) I'm not scared of Iran just because their government is "Islamic" I think Christians are just as liable to make rash choices. Our government is illegitimate, and if you care to actually converse I will show you.

    If you're just gonna bitch and moan that you're right, then take that shit elsewhere. I will never approve of this corrupted government
     
    StpLSD25, Jun 17, 2013
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  31. Dude111

    Dude111 An Awesome Dude

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    Yes and most believe the BS they spew!!
     
    Dude111, Jun 17, 2013
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  33. Bouga

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    Part of Iran is peaceful, but their people are terribly repressed right now. The chanting, the black robes, and lack of freedom really make me worry about the state the people are living in. This explains the protest, but we've seen this before in the country and help appoint a tyrant.
     
    Bouga, Jun 19, 2013
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  35. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    STP,

    To whom is this addressed?
     
    MeAgain, Jun 19, 2013
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  37. StpLSD25

    StpLSD25 Senior Member

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    You. You're saying Iran is "corrupt," when America is 1000X worse. In fact, anything bad happening in the world right now can be rooted to the UN/US Governments, Monsanto, and that type of communist/fascist system really shrinks the middle class, while increasing the amount of people who are dirt poor.

    So Obama is really just overseeing the collapse of America (In my opinion) They know the dollar will collapse or they will overprint. And Obama is the guy who will throw away the Constitution when that happens... I
    m sure others would too, but Obama's good at "calming rebellion," with martial law, domestic spying and, drones. We may also see an increase in "Religion" encouraging you that 'god' wouldn't want you to 'rebel' against your government. :rolleyes:
     
    StpLSD25, Jun 28, 2013
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