I know this is old, but some variation of this thread comes up regularly. As a person holding a GED and a BA Journalism and trade training beyond that. I can say I get the whole jump ship and forge ahead thought process. Here is what I can speak to: getting employment to support your living space and eating habit, let alone transportation, art supplies, musical equipment, marketing materials, studio time, touring expenses, etc etc is Very Difficult. You get graveyard, and you might like those hours, but if you work 11p-7 a....when do you play music/ DJ/run sound at a club (because to make decent money that way requires having a good bit of your own system and a car to transport it). If you want to paint/draw/sculpt and late is your creative time, you will be wiping counters and stocking shelves when your energies are best applied to your arts. Meaning your best work won't see light. High school can seem pointless. In the age of teaching to standards tests (US version), it just might be pointless. But the joy of higher education in something that lights your fire is amazing. Yeah, the writer took algebra... a couple times...and I had a certain number of hours to fill with not my major classes, but I took weaving, pottery and comparative religion. Plus I had an all but minor in American social movements of the 20th century (with a focus on protest music from Woody Guthrie to David Rovics). Found I loved science classes. Loved the how and why of "who, what where, when, why..and sometimes how" that was my main degree. And I worked for my education. I had a son in preschool and elementary while I was in college and university. I worked on campus and off, my partner was house dad as he did his art. And with alternate weekends custody arrangements, I worked any day my son was at his dad's.plus I'd worked some shit jobs and saved before starting. I'm saying find the road that will allow you to create. If high school is pointless, but you pull grades fairly easily, get the A averages and spend all your free time developing musical and artistic talents. There's a bunch of other disinterested teens you can connect with. Get a part time job related to your passions. Take lessons outside of school. Let your parents pay your living expenses for your high school years. That really is priceless.
Oh, I should add, after I pulled that degree, I did the 50 hour reporter and photographer work week, which can be different from cube farms, but I discovered at one paper that while I might have to cover some event Saturday or Sunday morning, I had the evenings clear. So I started volunteering, and then working for pay, at a folk music venue. I learned a lot about concert production, some bookkeeping (useful now in my encore career), lots of time and people management, met some awesome people on and off stage. My then husband (house dad of earlier post) got us both into live painting. So after the stories were filed, we would head off, with son in tow, to any venue that would let us set up. This exposed my son to a very wide variety of people. And you can't get cooler in middle and high school than talking about the backstage areas. (Or so he said.) plus, he learned how to carry gear! So, I wrote, painted and worked to get musicians on stage on time. And I pulled my living from that work for a decade. Life changes took me to California. It is OK. I'm in a city-area with more people than my soul home state. I can't afford a lot of the music around that I'm interested in, and live painters out here shat where they ate. Venues are tight about it. (But some are so open, t hank you Don Quixotes in Felton) Newspapers are stagnant, and I just don't want to go back. I needed a job where my effect was immediate, and I got some healing, too. So my little hobby of hand and arm massage for musicians rose in my mind. A year of living in a tiny space and all of my unemployment checks covered massage school. I'm still not pulling in much, but I'm getting there. I specialize in repetitive motion injury, oncology and bodywork from the Asian traditions: Thai, shiatsu, tui na, and some energy work. This is education all the time. And I love it.
dude school sucks belive me i'm 15 and i hate learning of facts more than you,but you must go thru this stupid educational system belive me just give it a try.
9 to 5 sounds easy. try working 80 hours a week. i think that part of the reason why the majority of society works 9 to 5, 40 hours a week, 5 days a week, is because it's EASY, and it fits into our consumerist society of careless ease. there are many other things you could be doing besides working 9 to 5 that could be much harder work. but if supporting mainstream society is the topic in question here, then yea, forget it. degrees and stuff will help you make money though.
I am 25 years old and I completely understand. Working a job you don't really enjoy, with people you don't really enjoy, every day of your life, really sucks! It is easy to say screw this I am doing my own thing. However, how are you going to do that? How are you going to eat and have somewhere to sleep with no money? It's a catch-22 and it sucks definitely. But there is a way to make the life you want. It just takes work! I did the traditional, finish high school, got a college degree, started a job, moved out... blah blah stuff. and I was miserable! I decided with some money i had saved up, I would take some time off to learn about myself, travel, experiment, meet new people...and i've never been happier! and then I spent all my money, had to live with my parents and am once again stuck. So where is the light at the end of the tunnel? How do you fit in with society to make a living yet go against society and live the life you imagine? It is tricky but not undo-able! The best advice: get a degree. Yes class sucks, yes you are paying tons of money to maybe one day make money, yes it may not be exactly the type of job you want later in life....but TRUST ME as someone in your situation, it is worth it. If you really want to create a life just for you, then you NEED money! I hate money, I don't like material items, but unfortunately society has created a world where you can't live without it. At least not forever. So get a degree that will help you in your FUTURE. What is your end goal? What can you do each day to help you get there? (EXAMPLE: I love food, gardening, cooking, nutrition, health...etc. I want to start a hippie commune or become a WWOOFer someday (and so I went to school to become a Dietitian, which I am now.) I work 830-430 every day for a not-for-profit in my community to help people eat healthier and live more active lives. Do I want a 9-5 job? NO. Do I want to sit in an office at a desk all day every day? NO. But this is the start to the life I want. I am saving every penny I make to go towards a sustainable off-the-grid commune for people like me to live in someday. How else can I create this life? You have to give and give and give to receive. It sucks but it is life. The universe has given you life, what have you given the universe? Working a 9-5 job might not seem like any step towards a better world but each little amount of effort helps. I work for a not-for-profit so I feel better about not giving my time and effort to a large corporation. I am making a small amount of difference in the community I live in. Baby steps!! My future goals are to: become a food vendor at music festivals, start a hippie commune or become a WWOOFer host or both, share all my love, happiness, and dreams with every life form around me Yes you may have to do the same song and dance as society to get to where you want to go but DO IT!! Do it for you! Do it for me! Do it for all life! BE SOMEONE! Be THE CHANGE YOU WISH TO SEE IN THE WORLD! I thank you each and every day for every moment of sadness and heartache you endure to better the world! Don't lose sight in the life you dream. Live the life you imagine!! I love meeting new people and sharing my happiness and love so feel free to message me!
yo man i feel the same way. y work a stupid job that doesnt do ne thing for u spiritually. and y get a job that helps our stupid consumer society. we r not meant to be slaves. in our society we r tought to be a reflection of our culture, but we need to be thinkers not reflecters. we need to go beyond the boundaries of our culture and create our own. the world is finally starting to awaken. we r having an evolution of ideals. the only thing thats holding us back is society, government, and the ruling elite. sorry for the long rant lol. me personally im thinking about joining a commune
Giving this kid advice now is kind of like talking to an empty room. He split after having a little tantrum because nobody gave him the advice he wanted to hear. C/S, Rev J
The path you mention? birth, work, death - you are not going to dodge those. School? Not really necessary if you don't mind risking the possibility of working some mindless job, and living in poverty. The risk is higher of that outcome, and opportunities to escape that scenario are fewer with only a GED, that's all. Maybe you are OK with taking that risk, many are and it's fine. The reality is that American culture is decidedly unfriendly to anyone who deviates - it's not just your parents that are setting this boundary. Our corporate masters make it very difficult to have things like health care, which you could need at any time - unless you go down their narrow way. When you say your family won't support you what do you mean by that? That they would disown you, or simply that they would not support you financially? It's not unreasonable that they would not support you financially, why would you expect them to do that, once you are 18, and you chose this path? SH
Didn't read the whole thread before I posted! Reminds me of how hard it was to be 16, but I think I had things sorted out a little more by then. From what I remember
get your high school diploma dude. I fully support you trying to do your own thing, but its very hard to make a livin doing that stuff, so its always good to have a back up. If you like art, try becoming a tattoo artist, or learn to make your own stuff and sell it online, or hell move to washington and become a pot farmer lol
You are a kid with alot of lofty goals and have no idea how the world is or works. A hs diploma would have helped you a great deal....... A college degree in art or music would have helped you a great deal by broadening your horizons and giving you some formal training. I have many hippie friends that followed a similar path. They are middle aged, their bodies are broken down from years of low level unskilled labor jobs, they are always broke and need a place to crash and will probably have to work until the day they die because they make about as much as they did when they were 16. Their families and children think they are a joke, most are divorced many times over and they look 20 years older then they are..... Broken old hippies. Yes there are good paying jobs you can get without a degree but most will be 12 hours a day shoveling shit jobs.
Here's the kid's last few posts. Spoiled little brat. Like I said earlier he had a little tantrum because we didn't line up to tell him "Yeah! Fuck school!" and hasn't posted since. C/S, Rev J
Damn man, makes me look bad I'm 18, please let it be known that I am graduating high school, and plan on being successful through HARD WORK
I half joke that I'm every punks hippie friend. I can't count the number of times I've heard "Fuckin hippies! Not you dude." Usually it's in reference to others like the OP. It gives us all a bad name. C/S, Rev J