23,000 people killed

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Communism, Dec 27, 2004.

  1. Templedragon

    Templedragon Peace through Spirit

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    Upside down flag = Nation In Distress. All my flags have flown upside down for years.
    The richest nation on the earth, responsible for leeching the majority of resources and much of the waste needs to generate all the good karma it can... this is a great chance to help. Of course, large muslim community ion each country and they are also not white people...not to enticing to republican right wingers.
    -v
     
  2. Revenant Phantasm

    Revenant Phantasm Member

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    green thumb, what do you mean its not a matter of opinion its fact? yes amerca does have more than most, but not everyones filthy rich, people shouldnt have to feel obligated to donate if they dont want to, not donating doesnt mean your a bad person.
     
  3. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    Trust me people, it's $35 million we're giving in immediate aid, you don't think that number won't probalby be $100 million by the time its over.
     
  4. Maggie Sugar

    Maggie Sugar Senior Member

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    I just donated $100.00 to UNICEF. THAT is a bigger proportion of MY net worth than $35 Million is of the US's net worth. If I can afford this percentage chunk (and probably more later) then my country can do more, too.

    How much are all those who are complaining that the US is "already doing enough" donating of their own hard earned cash????
     
  5. Ole_Goat

    Ole_Goat Member

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    That was very generous of you, and you've make a good point. Just as a reminder, the initial $35 million from the U.S. is only the first step. An aircraft carrier and other military equipment as been stationed in the area to help with the rescue and recovery efforts. Undoubtably there will be perhaps Billions more donated by the U.S. in the coming months and years.
     
  6. mynameiskc

    mynameiskc way to go noogs!

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    jeez. i'm pretty annoyed with the stingy comment, too. after all, this is just the beginning, but there's no pleasing those who just wanna complain about how awful we are. that's fine, who cares? like some poor orphan's gonna bitch when he gets some food. i've gotta wait until the 1st to send money, pay day. how amazing that something this horribly tragic, and somehow we assholes manage to change the discussion to bitching about some already-paid-for inaugural party. do you know how much it costs to cancel contracts for service on a party that big? people gotta work, no matter how bad shit is in SE asia.
     
  7. jesuswasamonkey

    jesuswasamonkey Slightly Tipsy

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    Actually, every American who pays taxes is donating of their "own hard-earned cash" since it's tax dollars going over there. Of course, 35 million is only about 15 cents per taxpayer, and when you look at the sort of money the US government likes to throw around it really isn't much.

    What I would really like to see is not just more money, what we should really be sending are doctors, engineers, water purification equipment, emergency shelters, food, medicine, building materials and anything else that will help protect the survivors and rebuild their societies. I think those things would help a lot more than just sending money.
     
  8. mynameiskc

    mynameiskc way to go noogs!

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    well, they are being sent. it's a given. through the military programs, charitable programs, and all that. my cousin has already been deployed, along with other medics in his unit.
     
  9. Maggie Sugar

    Maggie Sugar Senior Member

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    Sending actual SUPPLIES, all the way from the west actually costs MORE than buying the supplies in the East. India has ALL the supplies needed, they just need to be brought to the area. (And India is donating quite a bit, too.) It costs MORE to bring a bottle of water overseas, than to buy the water itself, that goes for everything else. Doctors and other personal need to be TRANSPORTED, fed, clothed and have equipment and shelter, which requires MONEY. Food and medicine is available from India and other near contries, but MONEY is needed to buy, ship and pay any taxes and duties on it.

    I can do better than that. I don't trust the Bush administration to follow through with ANYTHING they promise. Did you know that of the MILLIONS of dollars that was PROMISED, by the USA Bush government, to the war torn and genocide ridden areas of Africa, not a SINGLE CENT has been given???? Not a penny has arrived. I trust UNICEF more than my own government. They will get what needs to go there NOW. And I know the people willl get it, not wait years for it to never arrive, like Africa has been doing.

    I mean no one has to donate or help if they don't want to. But I want to. Bear and I are not going out to dinner tonight, as we planned, we are just having a home cooked meal, the savings of which will pay for at least half of our donation. One meal, and we won't buy champange tonight, just some cheap sparkling wine. It doesn't take much "sacrifice" to help people who have a LOT less than we do. I will be donating more next week, when we make more cut back decisions. Maybe beans and rice for dinner two nights instead of meat. That could allow us at least $40.00 more. It doesn't take much.

    I also found out an aquantance of ours from India's family is all OK. We were worried, he said they got a lot of water, but there were no deaths. (not in India completely, just in his hometown.)
     
  10. cobcottage

    cobcottage Member

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    I have been posting this around, forgive me if I haven't read the hole thread. Here is a list of Charitable organizations dealing with the Tsunami crisis.

    Action Against Hunger
    247 West 37th Street, Suite 1201
    New York, NY 10018
    212-967-7800
    http://www.aah-usa.org
    American Jewish World Service
    45 West 36th Street, 10th Floor
    New York, NY 10018
    800-889-7146
    http://www.ajws.org
    ADRA International
    9-11 Fund
    12501 Old Columbus Pike
    Silver Spring, MD 20904
    800-424-2372
    http://www.adra.org
    American Friends Service Committee (AFSC Crisis Fund)
    1501 Cherry Street
    Philadelphia, PA
    215-241-7000
    http://www.afsc.org
    Catholic Relief Services
    PO Box 17090
    Baltimore, MD 21203-7090
    800-736-3467
    http://www.catholicrelief.org
    Direct Relief International
    27 South La Patera Lane
    Santa Barbara, CA 93117
    805-964-4767
    http://www.directrelief.org
    Doctors Without Borders/Medecins Sans Frontieres
    PO Box 2247
    New York, NY 10116-2247
    888-392-0392
    http://www.doctorswithoutborders.org
    International Medical Corps
    1919 Santa Monica Boulevard Suite 300
    Santa Monica CA 90404
    800-481-4462
    http://www.imcworldwide.org
    International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies
    PO Box 372
    CH-1211 Geneva 19
    Switzerland
    41-22-730-4222
    http://www.ifrc.org /
    International Orthodox Christian Charities
    Middle East Crisis Response
    PO Box 630225
    Baltimore, MD 21263-0225
    877-803-4622
    http://www.iocc.org
    Lutheran World Relief
    PO Box 17061
    Baltimore MD 21298-9832
    800-597-5972
    http://www.lwr.org
    MAP International
    2200 Glynco Parkway
    PO Box 215000
    Brunswick, GA 3121-5000
    800-225-8550
    http://www.map.org
    Mercy Corps
    PO Box 2669
    Portland, OR 97208
    800-852-2100
    http://www.mercycorps.org
    Northwest Medical Teams
    PO Box 10
    Portland, OR 97207-0010
    503-624-1000
    http://www.nwmedicalteams.org
    Operation USA
    8320 Melrose Avenue, Ste. 200
    Los Angles, CA 90069
    800-678-7255
    http://www.opusa.org
    Oxfam America
    https://secure.ga3.org/02/oxfamamerica?extra1=asian_qua...
    Relief International
    11965 Venice Blvd.¥405
    Los Angeles, CA 90066
    800-572-3332
    http://www.ri.org
    Save the Children
    Asia Earthquake/Tidal Wave Relief Fund
    54 Wilton Road
    Westport, CT 06880
    800-728-3843
    www.savethechildren.org
    US Fund for UNICEF
    333 East 38th Street
    New York, NY 10016
    800-FOR-KIDS
    http://www.unicefusa.or
    World Concern
    19303 Fremont Ave. N
    Seattle, WA 98133
    800-755-5022
    http://www.worldconcern.org
    World Relief
    7 E. Baltimore St.
    Baltimore, MD 21202
    443-451-1900
    http://www.wr.org
    World Vision
    PO Box 70288
    Tacoma, Washington 98481-0288
    888-56-CHILD
    http://www.worldvision.org

    Has anyone else not been able to taste anything lately?
     
  11. Ole_Goat

    Ole_Goat Member

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    Just an undate...

    http://apnews.myway.com/article/20041231/D87AQ4FO0.html

    The U.S. has currently committed $350 million towards relief. I don't believe this will be the final talley.

    Also some has blame the U.S. for being directly responsible for the tsumani. They were able to link Globale Warming and U.S. Automobile exhaust resulting in this disaster.

    http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,11813903^7583,00.html

    Blame us for whatever is wrong in the world, but give nature some credit for this one.
     
  12. cobcottage

    cobcottage Member

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    And the Japanese just offered up half a million-who will be the "Big Man"

    It's great though. It's nice to see poeple seeking status by how much they give again.
     

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