Any Athiest LSD Users?

i must say that helped me understand the theory i allready knew alot better. or just really well put into words and stuff. nice.

havent read any of the other posts on this thread, but in relation to the topic of the thread, and the idea of beleifs, and beleiving in god or not, i have found that since dosing acid everything is tossed up into the air. all of my beleifs have been tossed around and i cant say i beleve anything anymore. just all my beleifs have been questioned, and how can you really beleve anything without any certenty. i have no certainty so i cant beleive anything. but how can you have this cirtanty with things that have no proof at all unless you go back to the theory of "beleiving in god is quite psychotic". its all just possibilities from my standpoint. well in my world just about anything could be possible, who is anyone to say somthing is real or not. expecially when their is no proof.

anyone else's beleifs been shattered?
its not bad either. im just open to all sorts of things.

 

That's the thing, Peter.

Anything is possible.

 

The universe is only a part of something bigger but we will never reach the edge due to the laws of infinity.

Everything is real. Every dream you've had, every nightmare, and when you die you will just assume a different consciousness with no recollection of your previous ego. Except there will be an infinite amount of you. Your atoms and quarks and everything smaller ad infinitum continue to break down and get used in some way in a new form.

Infinity itself is the most mind blowing shit. EVER. If I only I could word it juuust right...

 

me and my friend were discussing that exact theory the other day while on the highway, sober might i add lol. like the atom is the blueprint for all that is, on many different scales.

but you know what makes that so much more interesting? how little we know about atoms. the fact that we haven't even figured out how the atom works, what its origin of energy is.

 

Everything exists. Every single possibility.

A 'god' is just a religious representation of infinity itself. Religion takes what should be common knowledge and candy coats it, then adds thorns to it to control the masses with fear.

 

^spoken beautifully

 

There obviously is a god and he obviously is a civil engineer.

think about it, who else would put a waste factory right next to a pleasure center?

 

I laughed out loud. Nice.

 

Psychedellics originally made me against the idea of God in the idea of the story of Christ sense. It got me into a more "transcendence religion" type deal. (Tripping itsself got me into philosophy that deals with transcendence). It almost makes the idea of God seem more logical. I could go on and on with the subject but to make it short:

Exerpt from wikipedia:

In religion, transcendence is a condition or state of being that surpasses physical existence, and in one form is also independent of it. It is affirmed in the concept of the divine in the major religious traditions, and contrasts with the notion of God, or the Absolute existing exclusively in the physical order (immanentism), or indistinguishable from it (pantheism). Transcendence can be attributed to the divine not only in its being, but also in its knowability. Thus, God transcends the universe, but also transcends knowledge (is beyond the grasp of the human mind). Although transcendence is defined as the opposite of immanence, the two are not necessarily mutually exclusive. Some theologians and metaphysicians of the great religious traditions affirm that God, or Brahman, is both within and beyond the universe (panentheism); in it, but not of it; simultaneously pervading it and surpassing it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcendence_(religion)

 

Sw0o0sh, how you been friend?
If transcendence is what you've come to accept, you should read Chapter 13 from the Bhagavad Gita. People may be suprised just how well Krsna covered their 'other' philosophies 5000 years ago :tongue:
Namaste

 

So/so. Not so much accepted yet, a lot of my emotions get in the way. I've accepted the fact that psychedellics were making me think in terms of transcendence, and the topic does interest me (But for when?).

Also thinking in this manner would also cause things around me to start distorting, which causes problems for me in my school life.

 

omglmao

 

Actually, Hawking is one of the most overated physicists in history, and he has very little power in the quantam community today. He's kind of...well, a hack. But he is, of course, still a hundred times smarter than most of us!

 

Holy crap, I just got back to this thread +5 years and it felt like 12 seconds. There is no god.

 

I tried Really Hard to find a good reason to believe in a god. There is simply no evidence of any magic guy. I've considered this while tripping too and... nope. There is simply no reason to believe in a god.

 

I was an atheist before LSD now I am more difficult to categorize. There's a lot of things that get mixed up with "pure" atheism, like opinions on ethics/morals, opinions on what happens after we die . . .

as an atheist I reject theism; i do not reject ethics; i do not reject the possibility of some kind of non-physical existence after biological death as we know it. This does not require a deity.

my honest answer now to "is there a god?" is "and if there is, so what? and if there isn't, so what?"

 

I never know what to say when people ask me "do you believe in God?" Usually my first response is, what do you mean by "God"? Then they say "a higher power". Ok, well that could mean a whole lot of things.

I feel like most people don't even know what they mean when they use the word "God". And why separate yourself from it and believe or not believe in it? If there is a God, you are already one with it, in the same way that a plant is one with the sun that it needs in order to be born and grow. The human is one with its creator.

If there isn't a God, you're in the exact same spot, except now you've simply removed the word, "God". The entire question and discussion is completely conceptual, and nothing more than that.

God is asking itself "do you believe in God?" through two different vehicles of intelligence, called you and me.

 

^Unfortunately ChinaCat, it's too bad the majority of the people in the world cannot see it in such a nuanced and poetic manner thus all the needless bloodshed over religion even in 2013. In that case, one has to unequivocally come out against organized religion because of its net toxic effects on society.

 

I feel I went from believer, to atheist, to agnostic, to a knower. Looking back there was always that part of me that asked profound questions, my inner voice calling out, trying to pry open the door.

But right before my psychedelic experiences I had no conscious connection with anything nonphysical. Just like most atheist I wanted cold hard proof. For me there was no god, no afterlife, just you die and the worms eat your brain.

A lot of my first Lsd trip was really hard because I kept coming back to the question of death. If we die and the worms do eat our brains and thats the end, then what is the point of life, why does it even matter what I do? I kept coming close to death and I kept having to face it again and again. It was really hard and scary, but at the same time something kept pulling me back to enjoyment and bliss.

It wasn't until a few trips afterwards that something nonphysical began to present itself. A possibility opened up of something eternal, and from their it began to present itself. I started to search certain things on the internet, and certain things popped up.

Right around the same time a member on here, shapeshifter, posted a little class on how to bend spoons with your mind. Having a freshly opened mind and being a fan of the matrix, I decided to take the course. I never learned to bend spoons but the spiritual journey began.

Now it is no longer fiction. Now it is real thing. Now I no longer have to believe, now it is real for me. It has presented itself in so many ways, and it will only keep presenting until it is fully known.

Those who don't find anything on lsd probably believe to much that their is nothing more then this. But if you are open, you are sure to find, that their is much more then meets the eye. You are unlimited!

 

Hey, I've seen the fractals, and yes, geometry is everywhere, but I don't think that it's necessary to take drugs in order to reach a state of Enlightenment--or whatever term it is that you prefer.

Be mindful of the patterns that you place emphasis upon. Ask questions.

True wisdom can often be found in admitting when one does not know.

Be cautious of cognitive dissonance: it can be a double-edged sword.

We are the architects of our own limitations.

Peace