Indian Supreme Court considering online porn ban

This was what stopped me being a morman, read the old testament and put yourself back in that time was what god did moral, not what mormans or christians or muslims do these days but back in the day .

If human slavery is wrong why would a all knowing god decree it to be good practice, I dont think he would therefore using logic sadly the whole things a scam a lie .

Now you can go on living this lie saying that something thats false is true , maybe modern islam fake islam is better than modern western lifestyle, but its still based on either injustice at its beginings or a lie

 

I don't know really know any guy who thinks like this, and if one of my mates tried to come around to hook up with my girlfriend, I'd punch him. Women's sufferage didn't exist before pornography, so I kind of doubt things have gotten worse. I think most of these expectations are in your head.

Are you implying that women in Afghanistan have it really good because nobody expects them to get their privates waxed?

The enemy of creativity is good taste.

 

You are aware slavery is banned in muslim countries as well now? There's progression (even ) over there too dude. Although not in all social departments perhaps, I still can't see why you would expect them to keep up with the western world which after all had a different development especially socially/sexually/culturally. But if you still insist they should be a good muslim by following their ancient cultural traditions I don't know who is more backwards. By the way< I think there was a difference from the beginning between a woman slave and a wife. Just a detail. I don't think they could sell their wife.

 

Unless, it supports your cause. Like militant nudism: http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=468794&f=54

 

You have some really extreme preconcieved notions about the effects of pornography. Which I find odd comin from someone who was involved with porn themselves. I mean, I'm sure there are people like that out there but I think they're an extremely rare minority. And I don't think that kind of attitude would be caused by porn but mental issues. They are definitely not "facts" as you say

 

if you believe a religion is true it should have been true at its start too, lets say I claim to be a prophet and I keep slaves and encourage others to do so, and the years pass and my followers change and stop keeping slaves and the way they act is totally different from the way I taught them.

To say they are following me or my teachings is no longer true, they are following other teachings .

Now to be a real christian or jew or muslim you would need to think that the authentic teachings of your religion were good, not some stuff you made up yesterday but the authentic teachings in your holy book.

 

Indeed but they also have to accept that the world has changed so the slave keeping the prophet or messiah spoke of many centuries ago has changed and so may be the context of their words in regard to the current society. This is all very obvious to most people. Otherwise slavery would be just as common in for example arab countries. Same in christian countries of course. That certain atheists have problems with the backwards social traditions of certain religious people I can understand. But not that they advise those religious people to practice old backward traditions we both got rid of after centuries of slavery. That would seem rather stupid to put it mildly.

 

It's not my cause today.
I could write a book about what happend to me to bring me to Islam.

But to make it short,
I used to be an in home care provider for the handicaped and the terminally ill. I looked after a woman for 3 years. She was a very pious catholic and I sat with her as she died, she died praying that I would find love and peace in my life.

God/Allah (swt) granted her prayers and less than 2 days later I had an experience that brought me to Islam. I now have lots of love and peace in my life.

What I did before was sinful and wrong but I didn't know any better back then. There's no way anyone will ever catch me running around doing those things today.

Today my legs are closed, I dress modestly and my clothes stay on. To be very clear, I'm a chaste woman and only the only person that will see my body will be my husband.

There's a lot of people that latch on to one idea, theme, phrase, concept, event, etc.
Then they proceed to go on and on about it as if it's the hidden secret that everyone has somehow overlooked that will nullify the entire faith and change the world.

This world and our lives are only temporary. It's downright arrogant for anyone to elect themselves as a supreme judge and say there's no such thing as a creator when they themselves have yet to fully grasp the full wonder of creation.

Allah(swt) chooses who believes.
Whereas I'll answer the questions of anyone that's sincerly seeking the truth and I'll gladly help them find their way to Islam if that's their path. But otherwise I'm not going to my waste time trying to convience someone that's incapable of seeing the bigger picture.

 

many women do this after reaching a certain age.. Men and Women alike Mature, and dont do the things they once did in their youth..

 

very effective programming when someone comes up with a argument that you cant find a logical answer to you ignore it .

I know the way muslims are taught so its no surprise .

If islam was true you wouldnt need to do this

liars and fakes are the sort of people who would teach you what youve been taught .

 

So porn is to blame for rapes hmmmm because when porn is outlawed only outlaws will have porn, and only outlaws can rub one out. hmmmm I wonder ...will people be selling links to porn sights

"hey I need to rub one out man"
"50 bucks and I'll send you a link"

 

A-fucking-men to that, sir! I'm a writer, an amateur filmmaker, and a former comedian and I can attest to the fact that anyone in those fields who is worried about good taste and not offending people is severely lacking in creativity.

 

What your looking for is 1 of 2 things.

1. Either to be entertained at my expense
2. Or equally at my expense to justify to yourself your own paradygm

Regardless of which it is the underlying fact is that you're not intested in exploring the possiblity of there being something far greater than yourself. To this extent I'm not intersted in being used or having my time wasted by you or anyone else.

If you truly want to debate Islam and the existance of Allah(swt). Then go to a mosque and I'm sure the Iman will be only too happy to talk to you. You'll get a free copy of the Qur'an and all the help you need to answer your questions. And I promise you that no one will try to * brainwash * you or try to convince to embrace the darkside of the force.

 

There may well be something greater than myself, one would think if there was a god he she or it would have better morality than me, of course its possible you might have a supreme being that was more evil than his creation but would you still wish to worship him .

Now the god of the bible and the quran fails in the morality test as does mohammed and the prophets of the bible, its a shame

As a person who says they are a muslim you need to also stand up and say that you personally agree with human slavery and sex slavery, because if it was moral once when mohammed taught people to do it, it should be moral now .

if it wasnt moral why would the last prophet not have taught against it why did he leave such a bad legacy .

Anyway I'm open to the possibility of there being a god just it seems its unlikely that the god of christianity islam or judaism exists or if he does hes immoral

And I responded to you not the other way round you started this thread. That you have no answer why your god would instruct people to keep slaves or sex slaves and have his last prophet as a slave trader, and you tell me to go talk to someone else as if slavery or morality is some sort of minor point doesnt really reflect well on your religion .

 

What your looking for is 1 of 2 things.

1. Either to be entertained at my expense
2. Or equally at my expense to justify to yourself your own paradygm

Neither generally what people are supposed to do is use logical debate to try to come to some form of truth.

 

Jonny,

wise words.

So where do those go who want to justify their flawed paradigm......
looking for the truth for some is just not possible.

 

Now there's arrogance for you. Looking for the truth as it suits their own purposes.

Well here's some truth for you lot. The truth is that those trying to debate God/Allah(swt), religion, prophets, saints, etc...
Have most likely never even so much as opened a single book on any these subjects. Yet they go about touting as if they're some sort of experts holding the knowledge of the universe. .

All the while they're demanding that someone give them some sort of intellectual-magic-pill argument that will prove the existance of the devine in accordance with their desires. And anyone failing or refusing to furnish them with a magic argument of their liking only makes them feel smarter and proud of themselves. To that effect they go about only really wanting to believe in what makes them feel good.

Again I'll say that if anyone wants to truly explore the possiblity of there being something far greater than themselves... They should at the least go to a library and do some research. Otherwise the debate is a mute point.

 

Quoted for truth and emphasis. It would actually be hilarious if it isnt just so pathetic and repetitive in the end.

 

Already found that one

Every time you post something I usually get a good laugh out of it.

 

and out of the din of confusion shines forth this little gem of insight.

I will have to agree with you on this one.