if George Zimmerman..was a woman

If george zimmerman was a woman, and given the injuries he had with stained...do you think people would of made as big of a deal about it? Would they have let it go and seen it as oh "she was defending herself from an attack, who knows he might of wanted to rape her"

Also people are referring to the SYG law, and saying he had the chance to flee, well he didn't, and even if he did, it wouldn't have mattered, because in Florida you have no duty to retreat, and I support that ,, because was to say he won't just shoot me in the back for running in a robbery

 

Wait what do you mean he had no duty to retreat and u supporting that?

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I don't think there should be a duty to retreat, because many times criminals will just shoot you anyway or it gives them the possibility to

 

Also lets say I walk into my house, and someones raping my wife, I could retreat, because the doors open...not a fucking chance, that fuckers getting a bullet

 

But Zimmerman approached Trayvon, Zimmerman assumed he was a criminal and shouldn't have approached him. The only reason why he felt safe in approaching him is because he had a gun.

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you're new here, aren't you

ok, any evidence? and don't say "Rachael Jeantel", because she was proven to have lied under oath.

he called the police because he thought he was suspicious. not a crime, not immoral

ok, any evidence for this? GZ testimony is that he got out of his car to give the dispatcher info on the nearest street and to identify the direction which TM was going. His testimony is that he was returning to his car when TM attacked him. All of the evidence either supports or fails to contradict his claim.

so you just know stuff about what happened, there's no need to cite evidence, right?

 

Yes I am new. How do we know Trayvon didn't feel threatened for his life? When he noticed a 'cracker' as Rachel quotes following him? Everyone lies under oath, she was dumb enough to get caught. At the end of the day a boy is dead, it's sad. In New York the law is that you may defend your self with the same or equal force. I believe the same should stand in every state. If someone is attacking you with their hands., you should defend your self with hands.

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there's a lot of things that we don't know, and how TM felt during the incident is one of them. However, the fact that TM was on top of GZ and pounding his head into the pavement indicates that he could have walked away, but chose to attack GZ

not true. further, if it is proven that you lie under oath, your testimony is invalid

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agreed

also agreed

TM was pounding GZ's head into the pavement, i.e., he was assaulting him with a deadly weapon.

 

I don't agree. I believe that TM was fighting for his life just as GZ was... And none of this would have happened if he wasn't labeled suspicious for walking Alone.

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Btw can someone tell me which forum this is.. I'm using my phone and it doesn't tell me the forum just the newest post. Thank you

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Hip News> People

 

Thank you. And thank you for having an intellectual debate with me it's appreciated.

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you're entitled to your opinion. there are a great many things that might have been, but only a few conclusions that are supported by evidence.

calling the police because you think that someone is suspicious is not a crime, nor is it immoral

GZ's testimony is that he was behaving erratically. there had also been a series of crimes committed in that neighborhood

 

you're welcome

likewise

 

I think a better question is, what if Trayvon was a female?

 

I give you very much credit for this evocative and provocative twist. Very enlightening and humorous.

 

I'm sorry that you are brainwashed by the media

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I don't think that would really change anything. If a woman is "man enough" to beat the shit out of a man, her gender doesn't really come into play. However if a female defended herself with a gun from a man who was bashing her head in, I don't think you would see any public outcry. Infact I feel pretty certain that most people would be cheering her on. Except maybe Cherea.

 

I agree with you fully, like and equal force does not mean with the same means, it means if the force is likely to kill me i can use deadly force. Because what if George Zimmerman was a 100 lb woman, yes because a 100 lb woman most of them can defend themselves against a much larger violent attacker.XD

 

*raises eyebrow* how do you figure?

I don't even watch TV news..