American Idiot...

nobody said they're the only band with anti-american lyrics.

maybe some people just like music that so happens to be popular. maybe they like the style and the lyrics. it's a crazy thought, but i think it just might be a possiblity.

 

you cant say that their music hasnt changed. and, in my opinion, it's changed for the worse and has become like all the other crappy emo bands that are around nowadays. and, also in my opinion, they did it to get into the mainstream.

and TenCentArcade, you're not contributing in any constructive way to the debate by saying they're not punk, and saying that people's 'mamas' smoke crack and are stupid. so why dont you just fuck off?

 

ARE YOU FUCKNIG KIDDING ME? this album is great! it has so much power, so much soul. THEY MADE A FUCKIN CHANGE! they are now talking about somthing important, and not just beimg bored. I WOULD THINK YOU WOULD SEE THE POLIITCAL SIDE TO IT. and it's not just some lame attempt to look "cool" because it's trendy now to be "political". the whole album fits together well. back then, they made good songs, but they were just saying what any jock asshole with no brain could've said. and i guess you could say "punk", but not really. their new songs talk about comercialism, consumerism, and propaganda (not just from that annoying song "american idiot") they put alot of thought into this album. if you dont like this album, you obviously dont get the point. you probabl just liked them because of their dumb mesage, and you arent to open minded. they havent "betrayed" their fans, they have open their fans up to a new style of music, and these so called "fans" have actually betrayed green day by disliking them and calling them "posers" and "sellouts" that's a bunch of shit. GO LISTEN TO SIMPLE PLAN IF YOU WANT STUPID SONGS. WHY DO YOU NOT SAY THE DOORS, JANIS JOPLIN, AND JIMI HENDRIX ARE ALL SELLOUTS FOR BEING ALL OVER THE RADIO AND BEING THE POSTER PEOPLE OF A HIPPY? people consume their shit all day, it's all over the stores. that was a little off topic, but not by much. THE NEW GREENDAY ALBUM IS A CONTINUING STORY. it's wonderful. adn the new songs give me a wonderful feeling at times, and makes me want to cry at others. this is my opinion, and at least you liked greenday at all, because why is everybody always badmouthing greenday, but give them a chance!
grow up, because they have

 

i agree with you! YES!

 

Gonna call me an idiot you fucking retard. I like greenday, but unlike most people who call them sellouts, i dont go through the papers reading info on all the celebs, the band is cool, but why would i know about the band? BECAUSE THE MUSIC you fucking moron, i choose to pay attention more to the music than the bands, sometimes ill read up a lil bit about bands but not much. Fucking hypocrites who call greenday sellouts, your being a poser yourself by doing that. Music isnt about politics, its about expression or sounds, mainly both. You people dont know what the fuck your talking about, so dont talk shit about what you dont know, oookaay? Tencentarcade, quit insulting people, when you talk about them like you know them your really embarassing yourself, so quit with the simple coments, at least be creative.

 

I am gonna go back to this whole thing about selling out, coz it seems to be a huge deal with punk rock compared to most other musical genres. I disagree that Greenday have sold out. They are still very much true to themselves and their musical roots, so I dont call that selling out. Y'Know, so what if they are making lots of money,have lots of record sales and hoards of adoring fans??? That is simply called being successful and you cannot - and should not - criticize a band for that, coz thats all greenday are - just very successful and good on them! What do you want greenday to do?? stay underground all their lives coz u think that gives them more credibility as a band??! Most bands when they start out say that they are in it purely for the love of music and stuff, but just like every other human being does when they get older and wiser, their ideals,priorities and ways of thinking change! Greenday have made an album that is more mature, wiser and very accomplished. Give Greenday credit where its due people! Instead of rambling on abt their "punk" credibility.


peace and love
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ya, the music is about MUSIc, but the lyrics matter too.... that's why there are LYRICS. some people base music on the lyrics. some base it on the music. i actually base it on the music, but people seem to hate both the music/lyrics on the cd, and i like both. the music is more important to me because it's what creates the mood, and the lyrics are what you can relate to. dont give me shit for talking off topic! you seem to be a jerk, and you shouldn't be on a hippy website if you're gonna be mean. but, i guess you're defending yourself if somone called you an idiot. that person might've been me, because i sometimes get too into what i write. anyways, be calm. it's better for you.
peace and love, rainbow

 

I think that everybody that goes for Greenday has said the truth....people have read too much shit in magazines.....they truely have put ALOT of thought into this new album....and personally its....(i think)....one of there best.....you use to be "fans" need to listen, on the new cd, the second song the third part...cause it sure is talking about you...your so full of shit!!!!

 

RainbowCat, we cool right? i wasnt posting against you, i was posting against Booty_man and the people calling them sellouts.you said you agree that greendays cool and not a sellout. but the lyrics, heh when words are spoken in a musical tone and tempo i consider it part of the music, just like the guitar isnt the same musical part as the drum. but rainbowcat, were cool, right?

 

this is a ridiculous argument. what do you mean, "sold out"? sold out what? they've pretty much remained true to their roots, mainstream, mediocre music with predictable, "edgy" lyrics. who gives a fuck if they put out a new album. it certainly doesn't stand up to other great "concept albums", and i don't know what the fuck everyone's bitching about. if you do like green day, good for you, but you're probably going to catch a lot of shit for waving that particular flag. and if you don't, i don't understand the need to complain about it. ahh, so green day isn't a talented band, and you don't like their music, but it's popular. well, i hate to say it, but shit sells. pop culture today is more about having the right image than creating art, and there really isn't a whole lot you can do about it.

 

1. i dont read magazines
2. yes they probably did put a lot of thought into the new album
3. us used to be fans at least know what green day used to sound like enough to recognise that they changed their style of music quite drastically.

and you need to listen to the old style of green day if you think that their new album is good.

 

green day has always sucked, but at least now they are talking about the united states of fascism, racism, and hatred.

 

Gravy, you dont know what your talking about, and blind, what would be considered their "old style?"

 

Always sucked?? theyre fucking awesome.

 

ok well i consider anything before warning old style with warning being the album when the change was slightly happening but was still good, but that's just my opinion.

i think that nimrod/insomniac were green day's peak.


how many people have heard 1039/smoothed out slappy hours?

 

name some songs, i got that International super hits thing, i might have heard some "oldstyle" from it. besides, they always been good always will be

 

Ahh you must be ill. Here is what you can do to recover from your severe illness..

1. learn how to play guitar a little, and to read tabs
2. go to a website with green day tabs, read them for about 10 minutes
3. play the green day song
4. be amazed at how easy that was.

 

ok old styles songs...:

nice guys finish last,
the grouch,
walking contradiction,
basket case (of course)
knowledge,
brain stew,
green day,
and welcome to paradise,


old style green day songs. i do agree with you but i think they're verging on the edge of pop/emo. and for people that say they've always been poppy punks stuff, listen to an entire busted album or mcfly or something then listen to dookie or nimrod.

 

1. there is no such thing as pop/emo
2. once you have a music video appear on mtv, you have now sold out.

 

there isnt? so there is no such thing as popular emotional music of an alternative style?

well im dillusional then