So, when is the U.S. gonna start the air strikes in Syria?

Alfred Bernhard Nobel, commonly referred to in his period as ** The merchant of death **, was an armaments manufacturer. He was the inventor of dynamite. Nobel also owned Bofors, which he had redirected from its previous role as primarily an iron and steel producer to a major manufacturer of cannon and other armaments.

Nobel also invented ballistite. This invention was a precursor to many smokeless military explosives, especially the British smokeless powder cordite.

In the United states he collaborated with inventor John Ericsson to designe the American Civil War ironclad USS Monitor.

By the time of his death he had established 90 armaments factories.

Toss in for good measure that his brothers were oil barons known for exploiting the oil fields of the Caspien sea and for their harsh work conditions which included child labor and gun point forced slavery... And anyone should be able to deduce why and to whom the so called Noble prize is truely awarded.
It's not the peace prize but the PIECES prize as in blown to pieces.

 

While your post is otherwise factually accurate, you are in error here.

 

I think "who designed" are the factually correct words.

 

I wanna add something to this and what sig was saying...

I agree with Sig for one, that Yes, Putin is only doing it to boost up Russia's image and standing the world. Of course.

HOWEVER.. I agree with you that I do not care. If it works, good. Let Putin take the credit and crisis avoided. Good deal all around.

 

Peace no matter the cost, huh?

I've always been opposed to a military strike on Syria. I'm starting to question my position. Honor may now demand it.

 

It's still not a good situation.

Assad is still a butcher. The rebels aren't any better...beheading people and being al queda and shit.

100,000 Syrians have died.

It's not gonna end.


what IS the solution?
fuck if I know.

That's not right.

 

Rebels are not bad as Asad media produced them to the world the most of rebels are either free army (soldures who refused the command to shoot people and ran from army) or people of area that have been destroyed.
There are about 6000 volunteers who came from other countries (Jihadist) some of them are piushed by Russian KGP from Shishan and others were pushed by the amount of violence that they watched on TVs and internet or maybe told about by relatives and friends from Syrian.

those 6000 out of about 150000 rebels and free army means less than 5%.

Anyway lets suppose that rebels are bad as you think then what about the other 24 Milions in Syrian ??? shouldnt the world help them and stop the violence there ?

 

Are they ever "good". To me this goes beyond Syria and the Syrians. It is all part of a much larger game. I suppose we could decide not to play that game, but it will be played regardless of whether or not we choose to.

 

Yeah, I didn't think you would care.

No, I wouldn't be applauding it.

 

Ha ha,the good ol' USofA.Do me a favour.

 

Respect through intimidation huh...pretty much how the mafia runs things.
One shop owner don't wanna pay, it aint about the money, it's about respect for who controls things.
Pretty much the way we've treated middle east affairs we don't like.:smash:

 

I don't care who's right and who's wrong.
Just enough of this war rubbish. It's just one lie after the next to the point that there the only being that can actually know the truth is and that is Allah(swt)/God/YHWH

If anyone truely cared about the people of Syria they would be using their military to evacuate the population. Just secure several exit points along the Syrian border and provide whatever cover needed so that everone could just leave.

But unfortuantely without atrocities and civilian victims there's no profit to be made in fighting a war.... So it won't happen.

 

up the rebels! :2thumbsup:

 

Well its too bad that Syria isn't ruled by some toady for the American security apparatus......a puppet like Duvalier in Haiti, or Somonza in Nicarauga or Marcos in The Philipines. then we would all be screaming to intervene to save the lives of the various victims of violence.

Because nations like Syria stand opposed to the Anglo-American /Nato hegemony, they aquire a sort of cloak of immunity from outrage for crimes commited against their own peoples. Odd how this mechanism works.

 

God hates the unitary family. The family gets loved for the one religious God.

 

Well, to respond to your last paragraph and the questions there... yes, I know that even though (in my opinion....from what I have gathered) I have my doubts about the rebels- who they are, how "good" they are, etc.--- I know that there are all the ordinary Syrians who just so happen to live there and the whole, ongoing fiasco of the past 2+ years has been a horrible, tragic situation for them. I am interested in donating to help the Syrian refugees- not that my small donation will change the situation but my point is... I agree with you on that.

And then my other point kinda has to do with both your question of "shouldn't the world help them and stop the violence there?" and also goes into my opinion of the rebels....Years ago, when this all started- in the spirit of the rest of the Arab Spring, I think many of the rebels were good people- I just think as time went on the make up of the group(s) has changed so much and it is no longer the people fighting that it was originally. Actually, I think something should have been done to help Syria a long time ago...about a year ago I got really emotional in this group that I used to go to... I mean, really really emotional-talking about how I'd like to personally go into Syria and try to help out as much as I could and get people out through Turkey... anyways, there is no point to that short story I just told other than to try to convey to you that I do care about all the people being killed in Syria. I think way back years ago it would have been much easier to try to help- to try to stop the blood shed ...that maybe there would have actually been a chance of success without so much of a mess.
As time went on though and you start hearing about the rebels beheading people and pulling out their victim's hearts (and eating them? I'm not sure if I heard that or not but I'm thinking I did...)- and when you think of all the various foreign and extremist groups that have pretty much taken over the "rebels side"... and really, when it all comes down to it... the rebels...who are they? They are not one group of people...but anyways, yeah, terrible, tragic situation and it doesn't seem right to me that things like this are "allowed" to go on in the world....
I just don't know...I mean, what do you think the solution should be? Because I just do not know if the U.S. should be fighting in another countries civil war. It would be messy..it wouldn't just be simple. The U.S. can't always be taking care of fixing all the world's problems all the time. It may seem cruel to say that- but it is true! Where is the rest of the world in helping out? Is it too late anyways? What would ultimately happen if the U.S. were to get involved in Syria's civil war? How long would it take? Who all would get involved- there are so many players...so many people with things at stake... It would be pretty much a direct war with Iran. And there's Russia. Israel. Sig would call me naïve but I do believe it could result in ww3... It sure as hell would be worse than with Iraq (because Iraq did not have allies) to actually try to STOP the civil war (not just targeted missle strikes... not designed to take out Assad, or stop the civil war or anything else...anything other than punishment... basically, what the POTUS has been outlining if the strikes were to occur)- but yes, to actually stop the tragedy that's been going on for years now... just think of what all it would entail?
Should everyone just sit back and let it happen? Why has everyone been fine with sitting back and letting it happen until now? Chemical weapons were used... yes. But the 100,000 people killed before that should have mattered.
In any case... I'm asking you in all seriousness because I do like to hear people's opinions on this...what do YOU think the solution should be??

 

After just writing my last post (number 385)... in which I had, after responding to a certain posters questions to me and then me asking that poster at the end of what I wrote, what the solution SHOULD be? (in all seriousness...because to me the whole thing seems like there's only bad choices and worse choices)--- in any case, I just so happened to glance at your post and though I do not know if it would neccasarily work or the logistics of it, I must say that that seems like THE closest the to the solution to all the bloodshed that I have seen....
Would it not just spill out of the border's of Syria though? Would it really stop it? But regardless, I think your post going in the correct, most ethical solution...

 

I dont extacly know or understand what we will target?

 

Explain.

 

Your posting is not clear to me. Do YOU want the US to use airstrikes on Syrians or not ? A simple yes or no would be helpful.